From: Cari Machet (email suppressed)
Date: Fri Feb 17 2006 - 18:16:11 PST
thanks db 4 the intelligence
c
On 2/17/06, db <email suppressed> wrote:
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> This may be old news by now, but I just got to it, so it's new news to me!
> On Feb 8, 2006, at 5:49 PM, David Tetzlaff wrote:
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> You say you are in favor of all possible models for art making. Me too.
> Where we differ is that I am for many (not all) possible models of
> art-receiving, art-interpreting, art-using. If you think this devalues the
> artist as a human being and their struggles, I can only say that I don't
> think it does, and ask why you would place the humanity and struggles of
> the artist so high above the humanity and struggles of someone who comes
> away from the art with a different POV? I don't see anything here
> different from the Romatic cult of the artist (though I think your post
> states that positon with a good deal of elegance and passion, which I do
> honestly respect, btw). If _i've_ missed where your philosophy and
> aesthetics differ from the Romantic tradition, please point _me_ to the
> appropriate citations.
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>
> I'll comment via a quote. This is from Chumbawamba's Album 'SLAP'
>
> db
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> RUBENS HAS BEEN SHOT!
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> o xmas tree, o xmas tree
> how bent your branches seem to be
> 1921 and all's well
> another fifteen years and we'll be laughing in hell
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> one bullet straight through the heart
> Rubens caught a ricochet, Durer's lady cried today
> cracked old masters up against the wall
> blue-faced Wendy Woolworth: she's seen it all
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> housepainter, housepainter
> hanging your swastika wallpaper
> rows of pretty cabbageheads to gobble up your words
> laughing along to your blah, blah, blah
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> *"After the Kepp Putsch of 1920 (an attempt by the radical right to
> violently overthrow the new Weimar Republic) clashes occurred between the
> army and workers in Dresden. A bullet went through the window of the
> Zwinger Gallery and damaged a Rubens painting. Incensed by the incident,
> Kokoschka - then art professor at the Dresden Academy - financed an appeal
> which appeared in local newspapers and as wallposters, urging the two sides
> to settle their scores well away from cultural treasures. Kokoschka's
> elevation of art above political struggle outraged Grosz and Heartfield
> (political art activists) who replied with a furious polemic 'Der
> Kunstlump' (The Artist As Scab) ridiculing the idea that art could be
> considered more important than lives of workers. They welcomed the fact
> that bullets had penetrated galleries, palaces and a Rubens, rather than the
> homes of the poor."*
> * *
> *from "Photomontage: A Political Weapon" by David Evans & Sylvia Gohl*
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