From: xander!!! . (email suppressed)
Date: Wed Mar 08 2006 - 23:05:08 PST
it all sounds very academic, which i suppose is a discouraging word. my
particular area of interest is in the realm of gravel and garble and
nonsense and radical propaganda. but i'm so happy that this dialouge is
happening...even if nobody actually is cruddy enough to want trade tapes or
get down on such a diy level. the thing about film-making that is such a
dirty secret is the money, which always or never gets talked about (this is
more in reference to the 'why shoot film' conversation than the noise/film
art conversation) but i love noise and i love film for the same reason which
is simply that they are so intense and decadent and they are guilty
pleasures but nothing else will do - but one other thing while i'm a little
bit on a drunken rant, which is what is up with 'entry fees' to film
festivals, does anybody else think that this is a perverted culture? like a
weird pyramid scheme or something corrupt?
wtf? xander
>From: Rob Gawthrop <email suppressed>
>Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List <email suppressed>
>To: email suppressed
>Subject: Re: noise music / film art crossover
>Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 13:20:15 +0000
>
>NTN#2:
>http://www.mdx.ac.uk/www/CRMEP/events/noise.htm
>(Interestingly Z'ev (the percussionist) was a speaker, no relation I
>guess.)
>
>My particular area of interest is partly to do with how we can now perceive
>the sound (noise) of certain experimental films (particularly from the
>early 70's) as music rather than as being incidental. Referencing Vertov's
>Enthusiasm, Pierre Schaffer's early (music concréte) experiments and
>Fluxus among others and the relationship of noise with signification.
>
>Rob.
>
>On 7 Mar 2006, at 13:59, joel stern wrote:
>
>>lets keep it on list, i'd definately like to know more.
>>
>>joel stern
>>www.abjectleader.org
>>----- Original Message -----
>> From: Zev Robinson
>>To: email suppressed
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 12:58 AM
>>Subject: Re: noise music / film art crossover
>>
>>Hi Rob, could you tell me a bit more both about your book and
>>Noisetheorynoise, on or off list?
>>
>>thanks,
>>
>>Zev
>>----- Original Message -----
>> From: Rob Gawthrop
>>To: email suppressed
>>Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:11 PM
>>Subject: Re: noise music / film art crossover
>>
>>Additionally in UK to KYTN and other examples there have been two noise
>>conferences (NoiseTheoryNoise) in the department of Modern European
>>Philosopy University of Middlesex where noise and film got referenced.
>>Also my text "Noise Film Aesthetics" is due to be published next month in
>>the Anthology of Experimental Film & Video edited by Jackie Hatfield &
>>Steve Littman.
>>
>>Rob.
>>
>>
>>On 6 Mar 2006, at 22:55, Jack Sargeant wrote:
>>
>>
>>On Monday, March 6, 2006, at 09:51 pm, Madison Brookshire wrote:
>>
>>
>>So should there be crossover of venues as well? Is it possible for us to
>>show films at noise joints? Noise concerts at Anthology, etc.?
>>
>>I'd love to show work in that kind context.
>>
>>Madison
>>Val Verde, CA
>>
>>
>>
>>we had 'noise' events at Brighton Cinematheque (UK) and I've toured films
>>across Europe at such venues....
>>
>>Jack
>>
>>
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