From: owen (email suppressed)
Date: Wed Apr 12 2006 - 06:15:08 PDT
James,
I merely asked if you had seen the film and you have not. I am not
defending the film, I'm merely asking how one can critique something
one hasn't seen?
I have never have commented on anyone's choice of medium , here or
elsewhere, other than to say it's up to the artist to choose the
medium and that's that.
owen
On Apr 11, 2006, at 10:46 PM, James Tully Studio wrote:
> Owen,
>
> Look, it's nothing personal - I simply did not like the Jack Smith
> documentary when it was screened last fall. Jack Smith's work I do
> like. The documentary I do not. That's just my opinion.
>
> What is your stake in this film that you are defending it when you
> have not seen it as I have?
>
> Why not do your homework, go see the film that I already saw, and
> then come back to the list and either agree or disagree with me.
>
> What I will not submit to is the personal, AD HOMINEM comments from
> you and Mr. Kleinhans about my choice to shoot film and video at
> various points in my work, or which cut of the film I saw. I saw
> what was presented at the public screening. Later, when the crowd
> did not respond the way the filmmakers wanted, they said it 'wasn't
> the final cut'. Whatever.
>
> Please go see the film and then tell us what you think: I welcome
> that dialogue!
>
> I have the right to voice an opinion on the film that I saw. I
> don't relinquish that right under pressure.
>
> ~ James
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 11, 2006, at 8:04 PM, Owen wrote:
>
>
> What in hell is an unedited version of a documentary?!
> I find it hard to take your opinion seriously, based on your having
> seen an unedited version of a film.
> I will watch the edited version of the film before I form an
> opinion. Besides, how can one compare a documentary film to an
> artist's life work ? That's just silly.
> owen
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 11, 2006, at 8:04 PM, James Tully Studio wrote:
>
>> Thank you for making my point.
>>
>> I have indeed seen the 'unedited' version they were hawking around
>> NYC last fall as a publicity campaign.
>>
>> Thus, it is my sole opinion, having seen the work, that the
>> quality of the 'doc' was miniscule compared with the work of Jack
>> Smith himself.
>>
>> Such a shame that a man cannot be appreciated fully in his
>> lifetime, only to be the subject of such efforts to profit after
>> his demise.
>>
>> ~ James Tully
>>
>> (For the record: I am indeed known as a 'video artist' because of
>> the work I began with in my 20's that came to be exhibited at the
>> Whitney & PS1/MoMA. However, all my current work is shot on FILM
>> - with the exception of some guerilla street work where video is
>> the appropriate 'stealth' nighttime acquisition method. I could
>> care less what agents and curators put up on the web about my
>> work. The only time I took offense was when The Observer called me
>> an 'Indy filmmaker'. Why should I be assailed for using various
>> media when the situation demands... ?)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 11, 2006, OWEN email suppressed WROTE:
>>
>> Who here has seen the Jack Smith and the Destruction of Atlantis
>> documentary?
>>
>> It seems people are making assertions that it's no good without
>> having seen it. Bogus.
>> owen
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