Re: FRAMEWORKS Digest - 15 Nov 2006 to 16 Nov 2006 - Special issue (#2006-290)

From: Ken Paul Rosenthal (email suppressed)
Date: Thu Nov 16 2006 - 13:24:23 PST


Ektachrome VNF

I've processed 100's of rolls of ektachrome VNF film in E6 chemistry. If I
recall correctly, the older 160 speed 'A' and 'G' versions were VNF, and
they processed deliciously.

I recommend simply tearing off a 6 inch strip (in the dark) as a test and
processing that first to gauge the results. Mid-90's in terms of temperature
had the most 'realistic' color tones for me. And after all these years of
wanking around with reticulation by washing with cold water, I've only just
discovered that maintaing as even a temperature through all the
chemistry/wash steps makes an enormous difference in terms of 'accurate'
color rendition.

Lastly, look up Forde Lab and Spectra Film and Video re VNF processing. I
don't know for certain if they run conventional/traditional VNF processing,
but that doesn't necessarily mean they couldn't process VNF film as is an
Ektachrome stock.

Ken

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There are 9 messages totalling 533 lines in this issue.

Topics in this special issue:

   1. Imamura
   2. color dupe? (2)
   3. Microcultural Incidents in Ten Zoos
   4. ektachrome vnf processing? any left (2)
   5. ektachrome vnf processing? any left (Handprocess as E-6) (3)

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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:18:43 -0800
From: Adam Sekuler <email suppressed>
Subject: Imamura

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Dear programmers,

Last June international cinema lost one it's most cherished =20
filmmakers, Japan's Shohei Imamura. Imamura, whose credits include =20
the masterpiece THE BALLAD OF NARAYAMA and PIGS AND BATTLESHIPS, was =20
a true maverick. He's the first major post-humanist to emerge in =20
Japan, getting his feet wet just before the other great rebel of =20
Japanese cinema, Nagisa Oshima, went into feature filmmaking. While =20
his peers busied themselves telling classical humanist tales such as =20
THE HUMAN CONDITION and THE BURMESE HARP, Imamura picked at our =20
festering scabs. Much like Nikkatsu mentor Yuzo Kawashima, Imamura =20
had a preference for contemporary themes, explored with frankness, =20
humor and a lack of cant. He also had an enduring interest in the =20
inhabitants of cultural backwaters and the lower depths, particularly =20=

earthy, strong-willed women who disdained bourgeois morality. =20
Gradually he emerged as one of the leading figures of postwar =20
Japanese cinema, an insightful, creative artist with a near-=20
scientific interest in Japanese culture and society, new and old, and =20=

a flair for depicting the human condition audaciously and =20
entertainingly. Northwest Film Forum and Freer and Sackler Galleries =20=

of the Smithsonian Institution will honor Imamura on what would have =20
been his eightieth year with a retrospective of his work.

A list of titles in the program follows:

ENDLESS DESIRE (Hateshinaki Yokubou) 1958 16mm & 35mm
STOLEN DESIRE (Nusumareta Yokubo) 1958 35mm
LIGHTS OF NIGHT (Nishi Ginza Ekimae) 1958 35mm
MY SECOND BROTHER (Nian-chan) 1959 35mm
PIGS AND BATTLESHIPS (Buta to Gunkan) 1961 16mm
THE INSECT WOMAN (Nippon Konchu-ki) 1963 16mm & 35mm
MURDEROUS INSTINCTS (Akai Satsui) 1964 16mm
A MAN VANISHES (Ningen Johatsu) 1967 16mm
THE PROFOUND DESIRE OF GODS (Kamigami no fukai Yokubo) 1968 16mm
THE MAKINGG OF A PROSTITUTE (Karayukisan) 1973 16mm
VENGENCE IS MINE (Fukushuwa wareniari) 1979 16mm
WHY NOT (Eejanaika) 1981 16mm & 35mm
THE BALLAD OF NARAYAMA (Narayamabushiko) 1983 16mm & 35mm
ZEGEN 1987 35mm
BLACK RAIN (Kuroiame) 1989 35mm

The series will open in September 2007. If you are interested in =20
booking this program please be in touch so we can work out dates and =20
details.

Best regards,

Adam
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Support independence in cinema by visiting the non-profit Northwest =20
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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:54:18 -0800
From: Madison Brookshire <email suppressed>
Subject: color dupe?

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Dear Frameworkers,

Is there any way to get color reversal workprint anymore? Anything would do.

Madison

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Dear Frameworkers,<br><br>Is there any way to get color reversal workprint
anymore? Anything would do.<br><br>Madison<br>
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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:34:32 -0600
From: Jeff Kreines <email suppressed>
Subject: Re: color dupe?

On Nov 15, 2006, at 3:54 PM, Madison Brookshire wrote:

> Is there any way to get color reversal workprint anymore? Anything
> would do.

Thanks, Kodak, for this mess.

If there's enough demand, we might make a device that scans reversal
original and does a 16mm filmout (including edge codes) onto color
positive stock. Perhaps some lab would want one?

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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:16:30 -0500
From: julie murray <email suppressed>
Subject: Microcultural Incidents in Ten Zoos

Hi Frameworkers,
    Would anyone know where I could obtain for sale or rent a decent copy of
Microcultural Incidents in Ten Zoos, either on film or on video? I guess a
dvd is available from Penn State (where the lectures originated) but it is a
little out of my range at $165 a pop.
Thanks
Julie Murray

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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 22:01:31 -0800
From: Sean Weitzel <email suppressed>
Subject: ektachrome vnf processing? any left

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Are there any labs left out there that anyone knows about that still can
process ektachrome VNF?

thanks in advance
-sean

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Are there any labs left out there that anyone knows about that still can
process ektachrome VNF?<br><br>thanks in advance<br>-sean<br>
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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 23:29:18 -0800
From: ben d <email suppressed>
Subject: Re: ektachrome vnf processing? any left (Handprocess as E-6)

To add to this does anyone have experience with deveopling old ektachrome in
the contemporary e-6 process? Will i still get an image? What will the
colour shift be? If it was my own film i wouldn't worry but it's for another
filmmaker and i want to get a picture irregadless of the colour shifts.

Thanks

ben

>From: Sean Weitzel <email suppressed>
>Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List <email suppressed>
>To: email suppressed
>Subject: ektachrome vnf processing? any left
>Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 22:01:31 -0800
>
>Are there any labs left out there that anyone knows about that still can
>process ektachrome VNF?
>
>thanks in advance
>-sean
>
>
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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 02:57:16 -0800
From: Freya <email suppressed>
Subject: Re: ektachrome vnf processing? any left (Handprocess as E-6)

Apparently vnf is very similar process to E6 and lots
of people have been developing the old ektachrome in
e6, often without big colour shifts but you will
probably need to experiment.

I havn't tried it myself tho (yet!)

love

Freya

--- ben d <email suppressed> wrote:

> To add to this does anyone have experience with
> deveopling old ektachrome in
> the contemporary e-6 process? Will i still get an
> image? What will the
> colour shift be? If it was my own film i wouldn't
> worry but it's for another
> filmmaker and i want to get a picture irregadless of
> the colour shifts.
>
> Thanks
>
> ben
>
>
>
>
> >From: Sean Weitzel <email suppressed>
> >Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List
> <email suppressed>
> >To: email suppressed
> >Subject: ektachrome vnf processing? any left
> >Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 22:01:31 -0800
> >
> >Are there any labs left out there that anyone knows
> about that still can
> >process ektachrome VNF?
> >
> >thanks in advance
> >-sean
> >
> >
>
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> <email suppressed>.
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>
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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 07:47:24 -0600
From: paula salhany <email suppressed>
Subject: Re: ektachrome vnf processing? any left (Handprocess as E-6)

yes, e-6 is a pretty easy process. just make sure you follow the
instructions on
the chemical labels for mixing and make sure the temperature is correct. you
should get a picture. are you using a russian tank or bucket-style?
paula

> To add to this does anyone have experience with deveopling old ektachrome
in
>
> the contemporary e-6 process? Will i still get an image? What will the
> colour shift be? If it was my own film i wouldn't worry but it's for
another
>
> filmmaker and i want to get a picture irregadless of the colour shifts.
>
> Thanks
>
> ben
>
>

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Date:    Thu, 16 Nov 2006 06:16:23 -0800
From:    Jay Hudson <email suppressed>
Subject: Re: ektachrome vnf processing? any left
If you are talking 16, Pac-Labs in New York still does
it once a week.  I am not sure about Super 8.
--- Sean Weitzel <email suppressed> wrote:
 > Are there any labs left out there that anyone knows
 > about that still can
 > process ektachrome VNF?
 >
 > thanks in advance
 > -sean
 >
 >
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