From: Freya (email suppressed)
Date: Mon Dec 04 2006 - 09:05:49 PST
I understand what you meant Miriam, just that the
phrase "no jews, no dogs" is a racist one and
offensive.
I think why people are confused is because the person
who wrote the phrase has just thrown in with no
context. You seem to have interpreted it as meaning
the person is writing that to say that they agree with
the boycott and have gone further to say "Yes I agree
with the boycott, we want "no jews, no dogs"
However...
When I read it, I thought they might be commenting on
the boycott, that the boycott is to exclude jewish
people and that it can be summarised as "no jews, no
dogs". That the boycott is saying the same thing and
that it is racist.
The slogan was just thrown in there, so we have no way
of knowing what they mean by it and obviously theres
no point asking you Miriam, as you didn't write it!
love
Freya
--- miriam jayne martins sampaio
<email suppressed> wrote:
> hi shelly
> i was only responding to the slogan that was saying
> no jews and dogs. there
> was a call for cultural boycott, right...and the
> next email was the german
> slogan. i am certainly not a zionist and shall never
> be but i was quite hurt
> with that email! there is the idea that all jews are
> responsible for what
> the israeli government is doing and dealing with
> backlash!! hence one jew
> commits a crime all jews pay for it....one black man
> commits a crime all
> blacks pay for it. do you understand what i mean
> now....i hope so. i dont
> know whether this boycott is a good idea or not
> ....i certainly understand
> it. i have had to deal with so much racism because
> of being a jew and of
> color. i have had the shit kicked out of me by a
> bunch of skin heads saying
> that they thought we burned you all.....
> i hope all is cleared up.
>
>
> >From: shelly silver <email suppressed>
> >Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List
> <email suppressed>
> >To: email suppressed
> >Subject: Re: Call for a cultural boycott of Israel
> >Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 10:45:45 -0500
> >
> >i know and understood the slogan, but i am still
> completely confused by
> >what you are trying to say. could you clarify?
> >
> >>HELLO! obviously there are people who
> misunderstand why i said what i
> >>said!!..fighting racism with racism!...
> >>
> >>i am glad people are able to read instead of
> reacting quickly!!! i was
> >>refering to the german slogan ...hence no jews and
> dogs! NOT THE BOYCOTT
> >>OBVIOUSLY!!!
> >>
> >>>From: Chuck Kleinhans <email suppressed>
> >>>Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List
> <email suppressed>
> >>>To: email suppressed
> >>>Subject: Re: Call for a cultural boycott of
> Israel
> >>>Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 06:46:00 -0600
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On Dec 4, 2006, at 5:53 AM, miriam jayne martins
> sampaio wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>fight racism with racism!? great tactic!!!
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>I don't see how there is anything racist about
> individuals choosing to
> >>>boycott because they object to the the state
> policies of a specific
> >>>government. The cultural boycott was a tactic
> used in the struggle
> >>>against the apartheid regime in South Africa.
> Unless you can actually
> >>>explain your slogan, you seem to be the one who
> is cheerleading, not
> >>>participating in dialogue.
> >>>
> >>>Chuck Kleinhans
> >>>
> >>>
>
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