From: Sherri Kauk (email suppressed)
Date: Wed Jan 10 2007 - 20:43:19 PST
In addition, I would ask, what do you want your film to look like?
These two stocks you are comparing have extreme image-rendering differences.
The V2 500T is a color negative film. It will give you 11 stops
between the exterior shadows and highlights. V2 has a lot of
lattitude. It tends to render the color palette pastell-like, in my
opinion. Although it is a fine-grain film, Rory is correct that this
Vision 2 series is made for telecine. Even 16mm to 35mm tests I've
shot yield this V2 series distractingly grainy on a final film output.
The V(1) series of 500 speed tends to neg-dupe-print better in
film-out situations.
The 64 Ektachrome is a color reversal film. It will yield approx 5
stops between exterior highlights and shadow areas. On a sunny day,
then, you'll either get mega blowouts or mega silhouettes. Could be
cool. Reversal will give you a super saturated and contrasty image
(compared to the 500 negative). I've only shot it with 16mm. It
definitely has "a look" (whereas 500 negative seems more
"natural-rendering").
The sight Rory mentioned and I peruse too is kodak's cinematography page:
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/products/films.jhtml?id=0.1.4.4&lc=en
And, for post: Both have different processes to get to the final 35
blowup. In addition there is now the 2 or 4K scan from super8 to 35mm
to add to the equation to evade the grain-aige of inter-positives,
dupes, prints etc.
Who knows, maybe grain is beautiful ;).
my regards,
Sherri Kauk.
Cinematography
American Film Institute '07
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>
> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 15:56:04 +0000
> From: Rory Brosius <email suppressed>
> Subject: Re: questions on Vision 500T
>
> Leandro,
>
> Hey there!
>
>
> So here are some specs. on the stocks you talked about.
>
> First of all, the three stocks you are considering using are all tungsten
> based stocks, so make sure you have an 85b filter otherwise you will be
> looking at a very blue image when you are finished. I'm sorry if you
> already know this stuff, I just wanted to make sure you have all the info.
>
> So here goes...
>
> 64T will have an EI of 40 when used in daylight with an 85b
> It has a fine grain structure and will produce a sharp image.
> This will work well if it is very bright outside, but if it is cloudy you
> may want to try a faster stock.
>
> Vision 2 500T is a newer stock that is geared more towards a digital finish
> (aka - you plan on transfering to video or tape for editing)
> it has an EI of 320 in daylight (again w/ an 85b filter)
> It is a fine grain stock with a sharp image, and a latitude of about 8
> stops.
> Daytime however will tend to be, well...bright, this is a fast stock so you
> may find yourself shooting at much lower apatures then you like to, but if
> you are looking for alot of depth of field then it may be worth a shot.
>
> Vision 2 200T is a mid range medium speed stock
> It comes in at 125 daylight (85b)
> It is a decent grain and brings skin tone and shadows into a more neutral
> light so to speak.
> It also has an 8 stop latitude and is a better choice that the 500T if you
> plan on doing more digital composing, and you won't have to close down your
> apature so much because of the speed.
>
> This is all kodak so you will tend to pick up more reds, oranges, browns,
> etc...
> You can find more info on the kodak website as well.
> Again I am sorry if you know all this and I'm just repeating the obvious to
> you.
> I am also unsure of the specifics on your camera and if you have a filter or
> not or if there is one built in, there probably is a setting for daylight
> right on the side, but who knows?
>
> Hope this is a help and your shooting goes great!
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rory Brosius
> Northern New York, USA
>
>
> >From: leandro listorti <email suppressed>
> >Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List <email suppressed>
> >To: email suppressed
> >Subject: questions on Vision 500T
> >Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 20:12:54 -0300
> >
> >Hi all,
> >Leandro from Argentina.
> >
> >I have a Super 8 Canon 814 auto zoom, and I am thinking about shooting with
> >the ektacrome 64T or maybe Vision 2 200T/500T.
> >What do you think would be the best option?
> >
> >Most of the footage will be outdoors (day) and it will be blown up to 35
> >mm.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Leandro
> >
> >
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