From: ben d (email suppressed)
Date: Sun Aug 05 2007 - 00:52:00 PDT
I've stayed out of this so far, but finally need to weigh in. We need to
recognize there are two kinds of artists, and perhaps people, in the world
those who get permission and those who do shit by any means. Those who ask
have all the reasons of the state and capital to back them. Neo-liberalism
has been a discourse of closing the public sphere to the private home. At
the same time those of us who desire the freedom to take risks and make work
on our own terms need to fight for it. Those of us in Canada know the
regulations imposed by the National Film Board legal department if we are
lured into working with them. The state continues to draw tighter within
this current time of structural adjustment on a global level. Capital has
seized the public sphere and those of us who resist will be illegalized,
will we stop? I know i won't, almost all my shooting is already illegal.
This struggle matters to fight the rise of control but only to those of us
effected by it will fight it.
First they came for.... (In NYC: the squats, the bars without cabaret
licences, the graffitti, the parks, the rent controlled apartments,
protesters and activists, the filmmakers and artists (as ridiculous as it
seems), next?
All that being said, i want the industrial film crews out of my
neighbourhood. They are here for the aesthetic and they pay the city for it.
What about an air-horn campaign every time a sync clap sounds in
marginalized neighbourhoods?
Hope all are well and sleeping off the spleen.
Ben
"It is a society, and not a technique, which has made the cinema like this.
It could have been historical examinations, theory, essay, memoirs. It could
have been the film I am making at this moment." - Guy Debord
>From: Cari Machet <email suppressed>
>Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List <email suppressed>
>To: email suppressed
>Subject: Re: protest nyc's proposed film and photo law
>Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 01:59:57 -0400
>
>On 8/4/07, owen <email suppressed> wrote:
> >
> > I was wondering when you'd resort to name calling.
> >
>
>it's no resort
>it is the use of the amagdyla part of jimmy's brain
>he has retreated there because he knows he has no argument - no logic base
>and that is where all little bad boys go
>it is the reptilian part of the brain - yes it is going back that far in
>evolution
>pathetic
>
>c
>
>Owen
> >
> > On Aug 4, 2007, at 9:22 PM, Jim Carlile <email suppressed> wrote:
> >
> >
> > What a bunch of condescending morons. And I thought people in NY were
> > supposed to be smarter?
> >
> >
> >
> > >>Jim, are you one of those people who's never done anything which
> > conflicts with authority? That's why >>you've never been reluctant to
>ask
> > permission? You love rules because it weeds out the riff-raff? A few
>years
> > ago students at Valley College in L.A. got into big trouble-- they were
> > filming an assigned public service message, and when they showed up as
>gang
> > members one night in some alley in North Hollywood, all hell broke
>loose.
> > Neighbors freaked, police rounded them all up, and quite a complication
> > ensued. Point? Get permits. If you are refused, that's another
>issue...then
> > the free speech factors kick in.
> > >>You're not seriously comparing two people having a 31-minute picnic
>with
> > a cell phone camera (thus >>needing a film permit) to a bunch of people
> > simulating a gang fight in the alley at night?
> > >>This is getting ludicrous, but okay:
> > >.>"Sure, you've got a film permit, homeboy. Keep your hands out of your
> > pockets."
> > >>Jeez.
> > >>Talk about your ridiculous examples.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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