Re: protest nyc's proposed film and photo law Thurs Aug 2 Union Sq

From: Cari Machet (email suppressed)
Date: Sun Aug 05 2007 - 19:23:15 PDT


On 8/5/07, Jim Carlile <email suppressed> wrote:
>
> >>Having said that I don't think that just because I
> >>might not be allowed to film on the streets of London,
> >>that people shouldn't be allowed to film on the
> >>streets of other cities.
> >>Why would I think that, it seems kind of mean spirited
> >>and selfish. Like I'm having a really bad time so
> >>everyone else has to as well.
>
> >>Isn't the situation in New York at the moment that
> >>there are no rules, and hasn't it been like that for
> >>some time, in which case hasn't it already happened???
>
>
> They ARE allowed to film. Like most American cities, New York already has
> some pretty stringent filming rules. What was happening was that police were
> enforcing them arbitrarily, or were imposing commercial rules on
> individuals.
>
> What the brain-dead opponents don't realize here is that these new rules
> are actually a liberalized version of what was going on. Now, any individual
> can film whatever they want on public property, with NO time limits. Groups
> can film without limitation for up to 30 minutes without a permit. If the
> group has a tripod, they get 10 minutes.
>
> There is a legitimate gripe about the permit process, but that will get
> cleared up. And this "picnickers with cameras will now be breaking the law"
> is a ridiculously phony argument against the rules. It's disingenuous, too,
> because the "artists" on this list could care less about picnickers (the
> ACLU, maybe.)
>
> It never was the case that there were NO
>

written rules
written rules
written rules
written
rules

rules-- that's a myth. With these new ones, cops can't just throw you out--
> they can try, but they won't be able to defend themselves for long. Before
> that, they could.
>
> These rules are extremely reasonable-- arguing about them is like arguing
> about stop signs.
>

you don't get it
ain't gonna get it
(this has gotta be a joke)

I've never seen such irrationality as some of these other postings.
> Ignorant, evasive, invective-filled. Disgusting.
>

then you haven't lived seeing much

c

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