Re: FRAMEWORKS Digest - 8 Apr 2008 - Special issue (#2008-158)

From: Janis Lipzin (email suppressed)
Date: Tue Apr 08 2008 - 10:38:47 PDT


I would recommend Jean Vigo's beautiful and kinetic portrait of
swimming champion Jean Taris from 1931, entitled Taris.

Janis Crystal Lipzin
On Apr 8, 2008, at 1:14 AM, FRAMEWORKS automatic digest system wrote:

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> 1. Athletics vs. Aesthetics (3)
> 2. AW: Athletics vs. Aesthetics
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> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 07:35:51 +0100
> From: Nicky Hamlyn <email suppressed>
> Subject: Re: Athletics vs. Aesthetics
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> This is very interesting. Put's "Zidane" into perspective, hopefully.
> George Best was an exceptionally talented but volatile figure. If you
> want to know how big he was, look at his Wikipedia entry. He also
> played for clubs in LA and Detroit by the way.
>
>
>
> No-one has mentioned Olympia Part 2, by Leni Riefenstahl. She may not
> have been very marginal, but it's an amazing, quasi-abstract montage
> of athletic activity, and it should be shown even if only for
> historical context,
>
> Nicky Hamlyn.
>
> On 8 Apr 2008, at 02:18, Tom B Whiteside wrote:
>>
>> Brett Kashmere's VALERY'S ANKLE from just a year or so ago is one.
>>
>> Another is the quite amazing FOOTBALL AS NEVER BEFORE by Helmuth
>> Costard from maybe 30 years ago - many many cameras follow one
>> player very closely through a game, it is cut in real time (so it
>> is a feature, 90 minutes, I can't remember if the halftime is
>> included) and it resolutely does not show the rest of the field.
>> The player was George Best, so I am assuming this was English
>> Premiere League. It is an experimental film, goes completely
>> against the grain of the way soccer is usually shot and edited, and
>> it makes you rethink all assumptions of both the subject and its
>> conventional handling.
>>
>> - Whiteside
>> __________________________________________________________________
>> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <email suppressed>.
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> Put's =
> "Zidane" into perspective, hopefully. George Best was an
> exceptionally =
> talented but volatile figure. If you want to know how big he was,
> look =
> at his Wikipedia entry. He also played for clubs in LA and Detroit
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> the way.<BR><DIV><DIV><BR class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></
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> class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>No-one has mentioned Olympia =
> Part 2, by Leni Riefenstahl. She may not have been very marginal,
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> it's an amazing, quasi-abstract montage of athletic activity, and it =
> should be shown even if only for historical context,</DIV><DIV><BR =
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> type=3D"cite"><BR><FONT size=3D"3">Brett Kashmere's VALERY'S ANKLE
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> size=3D"3">Another =
> is the quite amazing FOOTBALL AS NEVER BEFORE by Helmuth Costard
> from =
> maybe 30 years ago - many many cameras follow one player very
> closely =
> through a game, it is cut in real time (so it is a feature, 90
> minutes, =
> I can't remember if the halftime is included) and it resolutely
> does not =
> show the rest of the field. The player was George Best, so I am
> assuming =
> this was English Premiere League. It is an experimental film, goes =
> completely against the grain of the way soccer is usually shot and =
> edited, and it makes you rethink all assumptions of both the
> subject and =
> its conventional handling.</FONT> <BR> <BR><FONT size=3D"3">=A0 =A0
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> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 09:02:52 +0200
> From: Ingo Petzke <email suppressed>
> Subject: AW: Athletics vs. Aesthetics
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> Sarah,
>
>
>
> "Time Out for Sport" by Australian Paul Winkler (his complete
> oeuvre is held
> by MoMA) is a master piece not to be missed!
>
>
>
> Ingo
>
>
>
>
>
> Von: Experimental Film Discussion List
> [mailto:email suppressed]
> Im Auftrag von Sarah Buccheri
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. April 2008 00:52
> An: email suppressed
> Betreff: Athletics vs. Aesthetics
>
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I'm setting up a program for The Experimental Film/Video Series at
> Woodland
> Pattern Book Center here in Milwaukee and was wondering if anyone
> has some
> titles to suggest.
> This program will address the question: What does a marginalized
> cultural
> force (underground and avant garde film/video) have to say about a
> dominant
> mainstream cultural force (competitive sport)? I began to think
> about art
> and sport after hearing a story in which the director of athletics at
> Princeton suggested that sport be made a topic for academic study,
> and that
> to study athletics is no different than studying other performative
> art
> forms. He received, along with the journalist reporting the
> story, many
> hostile reactions.
> I am looking for short works that reference mainstream competitive
> sport in
> any way, even if they don't seem to relate to this general question.
>
> sincerely,
> Sarah Buccheri
>
> --
> Sarah Buccheri
> UW-Milwaukee Dept. of Film, Video and New Genres
> Milwaukee LGBT Film/Video Festival
> email suppressed
>
> __________________________________________________________________
> For info
> on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <email suppressed>.
>
>
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> __________________________________________________________________
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> Experimental
> Film Discussion List [mailto:email suppressed] <b><span
> style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Im Auftrag von </span></b>Sarah
> Buccheri<br>
> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Dienstag,
> 8. =
> April 2008
> 00:52<br>
> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> =
> email suppressed<br>
> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Athletics
> vs. =
> Aesthetics</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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>
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 12.0pt'>Hello all,<br>
> <br>
> I'm setting up a program for The Experimental Film/Video Series at =
> Woodland
> Pattern Book Center here in Milwaukee and was wondering if anyone
> has =
> some
> titles to suggest.<br>
> This program will address the question: What does a marginalized =
> cultural force
> (underground and avant garde film/video) have to say about a dominant
> mainstream cultural force (competitive sport)? I began to think =
> about art
> and sport after hearing a story in which the director of athletics
> at =
> Princeton
> suggested that sport be made a topic for academic study, and that to =
> study
> athletics is no different than studying other performative art =
> forms. He
> received, along with the journalist reporting the story, =
> many
> hostile reactions. <br>
> I am looking for short works that reference mainstream competitive
> sport =
> in any
> way, even if they don't seem to relate to this general =
> question. <br>
> <br>
> sincerely,<br>
> Sarah Buccheri<br clear=3Dall>
> <br>
> -- <br>
> Sarah Buccheri<br>
> UW-Milwaukee Dept. of Film, Video and New Genres<br>
> Milwaukee LGBT Film/Video Festival<br>
> <a =
> href=3D"mailto:email suppressed</a><o:p></o:p></
> span></=
> font></p>
>
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> style=3D'font-size:
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> ____________________
> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <email suppressed>. =
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> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 09:50:44 +0200
> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?mar=EDa_palacios_cruz?=
> <email suppressed>
> Subject: Re: Athletics vs. Aesthetics
>
> David Claerbout "Arena" (basketball)
> Uri Tzaig "Play" (football)
> Harun Farocki "Deep Play" (football - installation)
> Cécile Fontaine "Golf-entretien" (golf of course)
> Jacques Faton "Bess Bobu", "Can86", "Entre Deux Cadres" (football -
> series of documentaries on collective memory and football in Africa
> and Europe)
>
> there was a yugoslav filmmaker Branko Kalacic who did a series of very
> aesthetic documentaries on water-related sports (swimming, fishing,
> etc). One of them "Na vez" was shown at Cannnes in 1961
>
> ....
>
> best
>
> maría
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 8:35 AM, Nicky Hamlyn
> <email suppressed> wrote:
>> This is very interesting. Put's "Zidane" into perspective,
>> hopefully. George
>> Best was an exceptionally talented but volatile figure. If you
>> want to know
>> how big he was, look at his Wikipedia entry. He also played for
>> clubs in LA
>> and Detroit by the way.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> No-one has mentioned Olympia Part 2, by Leni Riefenstahl. She may
>> not have
>> been very marginal, but it's an amazing, quasi-abstract montage of
>> athletic
>> activity, and it should be shown even if only for historical context,
>>
>> Nicky Hamlyn.
>>
>>
>> On 8 Apr 2008, at 02:18, Tom B Whiteside wrote:
>>
>> Brett Kashmere's VALERY'S ANKLE from just a year or so ago is one.
>>
>> Another is the quite amazing FOOTBALL AS NEVER BEFORE by Helmuth
>> Costard
>> from maybe 30 years ago - many many cameras follow one player very
>> closely
>> through a game, it is cut in real time (so it is a feature, 90
>> minutes, I
>> can't remember if the halftime is included) and it resolutely does
>> not show
>> the rest of the field. The player was George Best, so I am
>> assuming this was
>> English Premiere League. It is an experimental film, goes
>> completely against
>> the grain of the way soccer is usually shot and edited, and it
>> makes you
>> rethink all assumptions of both the subject and its conventional
>> handling.
>>
>> - Whiteside
>>
>>
>> __________________________________________________________________
>> For info
>> on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <email suppressed>.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> __________________________________________________________________
>> For info
>> on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <email suppressed>.
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> maría palacios cruz
> 33, rue de la linière
> 1060 bruxelles (belgique)
>
>
> Before printing, think about the environment.
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________
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> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 03:14:25 -0500
> From: Paul Dickinson <email suppressed>
> Subject: Re: Athletics vs. Aesthetics
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> "Team" by Dean Rank
> "You, the Better" by Erica Beckman
>
>
> On Apr 7, 2008, at 5:52 PM, Sarah Buccheri wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I'm setting up a program for The Experimental Film/Video Series at
>> Woodland Pattern Book Center here in Milwaukee and was wondering if
>> anyone has some titles to suggest.
>> This program will address the question: What does a marginalized
>> cultural force (underground and avant garde film/video) have to say
>> about a dominant mainstream cultural force (competitive sport)? I
>> began to think about art and sport after hearing a story in which
>> the director of athletics at Princeton suggested that sport be made
>> a topic for academic study, and that to study athletics is no
>> different than studying other performative art forms. He received,
>> along with the journalist reporting the story, many hostile
>> reactions.
>> I am looking for short works that reference mainstream competitive
>> sport in any way, even if they don't seem to relate to this general
>> question.
>>
>> sincerely,
>> Sarah Buccheri
>>
>> --
>> Sarah Buccheri
>> UW-Milwaukee Dept. of Film, Video and New Genres
>> Milwaukee LGBT Film/Video Festival
>> email suppressed
>> __________________________________________________________________
>> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <email suppressed>.
>>
>>
>
> Paul Dickinson
> Moving Image Program Teaching Associate
> UIC School of Art & Design
> 312-996-0767
> email suppressed
>
>
>
>
>
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> Beckman</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div><html>On Apr 7,
> 2008, at =
> 5:52 PM, Sarah Buccheri wrote:</html><br =
> class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite">Hello =
> all,<br><br>I'm setting up a program for The Experimental Film/Video =
> Series at Woodland Pattern Book Center here in Milwaukee and was =
> wondering if anyone has some titles to suggest.<br>This program will =
> address the question: What does a marginalized cultural force =
> (underground and avant garde film/video) have to say about a
> dominant =
> mainstream cultural force (competitive sport)? I began to think =
> about art and sport after hearing a story in which the director of =
> athletics at Princeton suggested that sport be made a topic for
> academic =
> study, and that to study athletics is no different than studying
> other =
> performative art forms. He received, along with the =
> journalist reporting the story, many hostile =
> reactions. <br> I am looking for short works that reference =
> mainstream competitive sport in any way, even if they don't seem to =
> relate to this general question. <br><br>sincerely,<br>Sarah =
> Buccheri<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Sarah Buccheri<br> UW-Milwaukee =
> Dept. of Film, Video and New Genres<br>Milwaukee LGBT Film/Video =
> Festival<br><a =
> href=3D"mailto:email suppressed</a><br><p> =
> __________________________________________________________________
> For =
> info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <<a =
> href=3D"mailto:email suppressed</a>>. </p><div><br =
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