From: Jay Hudson (email suppressed)
Date: Sat May 10 2008 - 18:55:12 PDT
ok. Don't use it then. Use what you prefer. People
don't use stocks for sentimentality. They use what
they like because it has a preferable quality. The
way I figure, the more options Wittner or anyone else
provides, the better it is for the film community as a
whole. Someone may just decide to start using film
for their art because of the increased selection. Or
others may be persuaded to stay with film when they
were contemplating abandoning it. I may not find
intererest in an option, but I am glad new things are
coming out.
--- Jim Carlile <email suppressed> wrote:
>
> memo to Kodachrome fans:
>
> The MP stock is no longer being made. Any super 8
> K-40 still available is at
> least four years old, and was coated long before
> that.
>
> If you want to get sentimental about it, go ahead.
> But it is not a vital
> choice any more. And get with it-- NO ONE is
> re-introducing it. Whatever Wittner
> has, wherever they are getting it, they are not
> manufacturing it again.
>
> Kodachrome is overrated. Even the patent-holder for
> K-40 does not understand
> what all the ruckus is about. He's constantly
> dealing with K-40 fans who
> overrate the film, and all the wild-eyed speculation
> and hair-pulling that
> surrounded its withdrawal from the market.
>
> And another thing-- these Kodachrome myths are
> getting annoying. There are
> NOT DYES introduced into the processing stage.
> Kodachrome is basically a B/W
> stock where the separate color layers are treated
> individually during
> developing. It's pretty straightforward. There's no
> mystery to it.
>
> You can even do it at home-- which I've noticed that
> many people-- always K
> fans-- seem to want to argue about, even with the
> experts and the guy who
> invented it.
>
> For reversal film, Kodak provides E64 as a
> replacement.
>
>
> In a message dated 5/10/2008 2:41:41 P.M. Pacific
> Daylight Time,
> email suppressed writes:
>
> Jim--
>
> I dont' understand why you are feeling compelled to
> be a Kodachrome naysayer
> in an obviously pro-Kodachrome thread.
>
> I was giving welcome info for people who actually
> like the emulsion.
> You don't have to like Kodachrome, or care about
> its possible reintroduction.
> But why the negativity?
>
> I'm not sure that people who shoot Kodachrome care
> that the
> manufacturing and processing is
> 'idiosyncratic" or not. We're talking about film,
> and Super8--it's
> all idiosyncratic at this point in the
> digital world.
>
> As for negative stocks being "better" -- that's
> not really true if
> you're looking for a
> reversal film. I've been shooting the Vision2
> stocks recently, but
> they are their own experience.
> And while I can print to S8 positive at Andec in
> Berlin, that's
> costly. Are you assuming that
> S8 shooters should transfer to video or optically
> print to 16mm or
> 35mm for a positive?
>
> Regardless, K40 remains my preference for extremely
> bright outdoor scenes.
>
> There's also the issue of stability. I don't know
> how the negative
> stocks (or the S8 prints) last over
> time, but Kodachrome tends to retain its color, for
> the very reasons
> of its idiosyncratic production that
> you cite.
>
> So, I'll take it, thanks very much.
>
>
> cheers,
>
> Stephen Kent Jusick
>
>
>
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