From: Sandra Maliga (email suppressed)
Date: Thu Jun 12 2008 - 17:50:02 PDT
We filmmakers could put up an alternative site, taking some material
from UBU and adding to it. We could charge a reasonable fee or a
monthly access fee. It works on the Apple IPod site.
I'll look for the discussion of what a 'reasonable fee' would be. If
the volume of viewers is there, maybe $3 would add up.... But if the
Canyon rental rate is $100.....
--Sandy
On Jun 12, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Freya wrote:
> It is good news!
>
> Maybe it means that word got around and that there
> were people thinking and genuinely listening!
>
> Maybe it was just one of those silly jokes that you
> suddenly realise isn't really all that funny and is a
> bit offensive to boot when you look at it again.
>
> I hope they will think about positive ways to express
> their views about things like creative commons
> (perhaps a page about it) and to be supportive of
> artists and not to view them as the enemy. Perhaps
> when an artist contacts them to have their work
> removed it is a good time to get into a dialogue with
> the artist as to whether they might be happy to submit
> something else to ubuweb or to work together in some
> way.
>
> Perhaps there could even be 2 ubu sections, the
> dungeon where all the dodgy bootlegs live until a
> request for removal, and a garden of ubu, where stuff
> can live for which there is permission for use.
> Perhaps ubu could have a page for ubu stars, artists
> who have tried to work with ubu like Pip Chodorov has.
>
> Whatever happens, I hope it will be more positive
> stuff and not attacking people for their different
> views.
>
> I think you summed up my feelings about it too Chris,
> it really did seem like some strange kind of selfish
> sulking.
>
> I'm really glad it is gone and hope it will be
> replaced by good and positive things whatever they
> are! :)
>
> I think it is a good sign, if the people there are
> listening to criticism and considering it and thinking
> about it.
>
> Fingers crossed that a more positive ubu may be on its
> way! :)
>
> love
>
> Freya
>
> --- Chris Kennedy <email suppressed> wrote:
>
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>>> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:47:33 +0100
>>> From: Jorge Amaro <email suppressed>
>>> Subject: Re: ubu unendlich
>>>
>>> I believe that the hall of shame was removed.
>>
>> I noticed that, too. And for me, that ends a lot of
>> the debate.
>> You can put something up, the artist can say no, and
>> you don't have to sulk
>> about it. The hall of shame made ubu seem more about
>> possessiveness rather
>> than sharing, in a consumerist robin hood sort of
>> way.
>>
>> Good news.
>>
>>
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