From: Danni Zuvela (email suppressed)
Date: Thu Jul 31 2008 - 17:20:23 PDT
On 01/08/2008, Chen Sheinberg <email suppressed> wrote:
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> Dear Frameworks,
> today I lectured about insects in experimental cinema and your responses
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> your list of films helped me a lot.
> thanks to all of you !
> Chen Sheinberg
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> Original Message -----
> From: David Woods
> To: email suppressed
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:44 PM
> Subject: Re: Experimental Remakes (& perfection)
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> This urge to reify the creative process by integrating and highlighting the
> source material seems less homage and more retailing – redeploying the power
> of the original, with implicit added value. (Of course it wouldn't be
> retailing if it remained in the private space, but the experimentalist
> generally seems unable to work outside the public arena.) As for
> re-contextualization, phoey. I liken this deceptive faux-word to the
> self-reflexive modish verbal oeuvre of the rag-tag "studies lot". The re-
> is tautological, redundant and, interestingly, absurd, although the
> 'repetition of meaning' might, I suppose, be an apt trope.
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> As for Wavelength revisited, someone will get round to it, and sadly, think
> it's a neat idea, and others, sadly will agree; and so it goes.
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> Hope you and Jo are settling-in OK.
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> Cheers
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> David ("very infrequently on Frameworks") Woods
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> THE (The Holcus Effect)
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> From: Experimental Film Discussion List
> [mailto:email suppressed] On Behalf Of Rob
> Gawthrop
> Sent: 31 July 2008 13:27
> To: email suppressed
> Subject: Re: Experimental Remakes (& perfection)
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> There have been experimental re-makes of (such perfect) films as Lumiere's
> Arroseur arrosé, (Malcolm Le Grice) GA Smith's Miller & the Sweep (Jo
> Millett & myself) and others ....?. Both originals having been plagiarised
> in the distant past.
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> This re-making or rather re-contextualising is quite different to commercial
> re-making, which in fact has a lot more in common with the nineteenth
> century plagiarists. If Wavelength had been highly profitable then a
> digital re-make - wide-screen, using CGI and shot across an expensive and
> trendy loft space - would be the equivalent .
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> Rob.
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> On 31/7/08 09:52, "Nicky Hamlyn"
> <email suppressed> wrote:
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> Vanda Carter's film "Moth Fight" is a homage/remake on the insect theme.
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> Available from LUX,
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> Nicky Hamlyn.
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> On 31 Jul 2008, at 06:31, André Lindahl wrote:
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> One Way Boogie Woogie/27 Years Later by Benning.
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> On 7/30/08 9:50 PM, "Bryan Konefsky" <email suppressed> wrote:
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> >> Subject: Re: INSECT FILMS
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> > Hey, let's not forget the brilliant (and funny) collab
> > between Helen Hill and Courtney Egon - "Termite Light."
> > Which actually reminds me that I might be interested in
> > booking experimental redux/remade films/videos for
> > Experiments in Cinema V4.2 this year (we will post our
> > call for submissions shortly) - Might anyone have
> > suggestions for experimental remakes (in addition to
> > Termite Light and Bill Brown's redux of Kustom Kar
> > Kommandos)?
> > best
> >
> > Bryan Konefsky, Visualiste
> > Lecturer, Dept. of Cinematic Arts, University of New
> > Mexico
> > Artistic Director, Experiments in Cinema
> > Vice President, Basement Films
> > Advisory Board, Ann Arbor Film Festival
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