From: Mark Toscano (email suppressed)
Date: Wed Aug 20 2008 - 00:28:27 PDT
And some "archivists" are "artists" too.
mark t
--- On Tue, 8/19/08, Adam Hyman <email suppressed> wrote:
> From: Adam Hyman <email suppressed>
> Subject: Re: [FRAMEWORKS] Film Arts Foundation debacle
> To: email suppressed
> Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 11:16 PM
> Hi guys,
>
> Jeez, I didnąt actually mean that the problem was that
> artists might have
> taken over, or that any were actually incompetent.
>
> My point was that in order for an organization like that to
> stay afloat, it
> actually needs good business people & grant writers.
>
> Jim, I am utterly stumped by your blame of łarchivists,
> the scholar
> squirrels, and the business types˛ - if anything, it was
> probably a lack of
> them in proportion to the number of people wanting to make
> use of the
> resources. One needs staff to run a place like that, so
> that artists can
> spend their time creating. I really have no idea where
> your bringing up
> archivists and scholars comes from at all.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Adam
>
>
> On 8/19/08 4:21 PM, "Jim Carlile"
> <email suppressed> wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 8/19/2008 3:41:53 P.M. Pacific
> Daylight Time,
> > email suppressed writes:
> >> I can't explain it (because I don't know)
> but it is incorrect to assume (in
> >> this case) that incompetent artists sank FAF.
> Indeed it was founded by
> >> artists in the mid-70s but it has long been under
> the leadership of people
> >> of solidly administrative minds (staff and
> board); no way did artists "take
> >> it over."
> >>
> >
> >
> > I agree- I certainly don't blame the artists or
> craftsman, who were the sole
> > reason why FAF was started in the first place. I think
> it's cynical for anyone
> > to blame the "artists" for being inept.
> That's always the pretext for a
> > takeover.
> >
> > No, this is the kind of thing that happens nowadays.
> It's a racket. The
> > culture vulture mediocrities always end up taking over
> and ruining things--
> > you see this all the time with college radio
> stations-- the bureaucrat-money
> > minded run in to 'save' a cool thing, and end
> up dismantling it somehow,
> > usually piously.
> >
> > Some of them get "fees" for this
> destruction, too. And it makes them feel
> > cool, -- just like the "artists."
> They're arty, too.
> >
> > FAF was neat because it was artist-craftsman oriented.
> But clearly, the
> > archivists, the scholar squirrels, and the business
> types glommed onto it for
> > their own purposes, and eliminated its raison
> d'etre. Sad sad sad.
> >
> > But hey, that FAF archive that's been built up
> over the many years-- maybe
> > they can market it!... to save it! Plainly, that's
> what this is all-- and
> > always is-- about.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > It's only a deal if it's where you want to go.
> Find your travel deal here
> >
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> .
> >
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