From: Flores-Gutiérrez, Beatriz (email suppressed)
Date: Thu Sep 04 2008 - 21:44:20 PDT
It is interesting how there appear to be cultural "gatekeepers", as if experimental film discussions needed to exclusively need to deal with the materiality of film and not contemporary issues that inform filmmakers or a border between contemporary socio-political context and the film apparatus.
On the other hand, it's interesting how you can "be sad" about someone else's comments/input, and then feel others are "mean to you", as if your previous response was "loving" at all.
It isn't like one stops being a filmmaker if you commented on current politics. Sure we can all continue to ask for filmmakers and their fabulous films, the whereabouts of so and so, and all the technology ever available to us, it is wonderful.
Jai Uttal, sent the same e-mail to a massive list (with the difference that he is famous) and we all love him; by the way, let me get us back to filmmaking. The repetitions in Kirtan I realized the other night, had the same effect on me than flicker films, or certain kind of music that eventually, if you tune into it at all, can put you in a trance or ecstatic state. A friend of mine (a scientist) said you could do the same thing if you repeated anything at all, the name of kitchen appliances for example. I'm sure this is not news to many.
Love,
Beatriz
-----Original Message-----
From: Experimental Film Discussion List on behalf of k. a.r.
Sent: Thu 9/4/2008 7:31 PM
To: email suppressed
Subject: Re: My messages don't make it to the list!
(sorry about the multi posts, I'm in Mexico and my internet connection is weird.)
I just want to say:
I think all of you writing the nasty comments to me are just being mean, and looking for a fight.
Well, you're not gonna get that from me, I'm a lover not a fighter :)
Saying I am sick of obama is not a political comment, its more of a comment about
the overload of attention, my point proven by the fact that there is a post promoting him on this FILM DISCUSSION LIST.
What I said in the first post is the truth. This is a film discussion list.
Putting a post on just to forward a link for political propaganda is not relevant to this list.
That's the only thing I was trying to say.
You people have made me really sad, the nasty personal attacks are 100% uncalled for.
Let's just drop this, because I really don't appreciate the negativity that is being directed at me.
And personal attacks are also NOT what this list is for, ya big bunch of meanies.....
Kristie Reinders, B.F.A.
Director of Cinematography, Electric Visions
Curator and Head Projectionist, Electric Mural Project
The Mission, San Francisco, CA
'A first class technician should work best under pressure.'
- - - Issac Asimov
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