From: Rob Gawthrop (email suppressed)
Date: Fri Sep 05 2008 - 09:02:51 PDT
Film¹s materiality cannot be disconected from the material and historical
conditions of its making and exhibition. Having said that Frameworks is an
international list and the local politics of the U.S.A. can only sometimes
be relevent to everyone, the political issues however are. After all
doesn¹t avant-garde has its roots in the French Revolution?
(and what what¹s that bit about evolution being a lie? Is this some kind of
anti-intelectual creationism?)
Rob.
On 5/9/08 14:59, "James Cole" <email suppressed> wrote:
> Jesus Christ! It is an experimental film discussion listserv. It is not a
> political discussion board. I've unsubscribed from MoveOn, because after I
> signed some petition I got a thousand emails a day. I signed up for Frameworks
> because I like reading about and discussing experimental film. I certainly
> didn't sign up so that the zealots and self-righteous crusaders would have yet
> another way to bombard me with propoganda.
>
> YOU ARE SENDING POLITICAL PROPOGANDA TO PEOPLE YOU DON'T KNOW!
>
> YOU ARE SENDING STUFF ON A FILM DISCSSION BOARD THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH
> FILM!
>
> How is that ANY different than spam?
>
> How is it justifyable, in your mind, to send political propaganda to me under
> the guise of experimental film discusion? It's disengenuous, impolite, and
> exploitive of the people who signed up for this.
>
> Keep this shit out of our inboxes, or I'm going to start using this to sell
> discount Paxill and Hott N(A)KeD +eenz!
>
> -James
>
> On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 12:54 AM, Flores-Gutiérrez, Beatriz
> <email suppressed> wrote:
>> Because you discount it flat out in the first place!
>>
>> love,
>> Beatriz
>>
>>
>> Beatriz Flores Gutiérrez
>> Expressive Arts
>> Film/Video/Interdisciplinary Media
>> Com 359
>> x5531
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Experimental Film Discussion List on behalf of k. a.r.
>> Sent: Thu 9/4/2008 5:53 PM
>> To: email suppressed
>> Subject: Re: My messages don't make it to the list!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> why is my personal opinion irrelevant, but yours is not?????
>>
>>
>> Kristie Reinders, B.F.A.
>> Director of Cinematography, Electric Visions
>> Curator and Head Projectionist, Electric Mural Project
>> The Mission, San Francisco, CA
>>
>> 'A first class technician should work best under pressure.'
>> - - - Issac Asimov
>>
>>> > Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 16:45:00 -0700
>>> > From: email suppressed
>>> > Subject: Re: [FRAMEWORKS] My messages don't make it to the list!
>>> > To: email suppressed
>>> >
>>> > Like American politics are separate from film artists uh? At this time of
>>> dire world misery due to "American Politics" your personal opinions on what
>>> goes on a list is rather irrelevant.
>>> >
>>> > Thank you anyhow,
>>> > Beatriz
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Beatriz Flores Gutiérrez
>>> > Expressive Arts
>>> > Film/Video/Interdisciplinary Media
>>> > Com 359
>>> > x5531
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Experimental Film Discussion List on behalf of k. a.r.
>>> > Sent: Thu 9/4/2008 4:27 PM
>>> > To: email suppressed
>>> > Subject: Re: My messages don't make it to the list!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > you have to set preferences to see your own messages, and anyway, this
>>> worldwide
>>> > FILM DISCUSSION LIST
>>> > s not the place for american politics.
>>> > let's keep it off the list.
>>> > I'm so sick of hearing about obama and now he has even invaded frameworks.
>>> > that's sad.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Kristie Reinders, B.F.A.
>>> > Director of Cinematography, Electric Visions
>>> > Curator and Head Projectionist, Electric Mural Project
>>> > The Mission, San Francisco, CA
>>> >
>>> > 'A first class technician should work best under pressure.'
>>> > - - - Issac Asimov
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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