From: Flores-Gutiérrez, Beatriz (email suppressed)
Date: Mon Sep 08 2008 - 00:39:25 PDT
Hello Fred,
>I think everyone on this
>list knows who Obama is, and, being on the Internet, knows how to find
>out more about him if they want to. We don't need to be told to support
>him, or to not support him, or to buy Obama buttons! If everyone on this
>list posted about everything that interested them, we would all be
>overwhelmed.
I insist that the buttons are free of charge, I'm not sure why people write that they have to buy them. I don't mean to suggest that people in this list don't know who Barak Obama is. I don't mean to suggest that you need to support him, or even assume you would. I think you're right, if everyone posted whatever interested them, it would be overwhelming. I guess the only good thing about elections is that they happen every four years. Ok, let's change the topic. I really like that you took the time to respond. I appreciate the message about "rudeness", yes, we have to remember to write to connect and non-violent communication. It's terribly hard!
Good night,
Beatriz
-----Original Message-----
From: Experimental Film Discussion List on behalf of Fred Camper
Sent: Fri 9/5/2008 10:44 AM
To: email suppressed
Subject: FramWorks, Obama, Satantango, politics, etc.
One reason many people stop reading FrameWorks, either for long periods
of time (as I have) or permanently, is that so many posts that be fine
if exchanged between a few friends are just RUDE when sent to 700 people
located all over the world.
Of course politics is relevant to film. But I think everyone on this
list knows who Obama is, and, being on the Internet, knows how to find
out more about him if they want to. We don't need to be told to support
him, or to not support him, or to buy Obama buttons! If everyone on this
list posted about everything that interested them, we would all be
overwhelmed.
I prefer to read decently written posts that are well informed. Having
seen "Satantango" twice, complete, and on film, I don't need to read a
post from someone who has seen an hour or so of it on video. What's
great about FrameWorks is that so many people here have specialized
knowledge of various aspects of experimental cinema. What wrecks the
list is people posting opinions about topics they don't know much about,
plus personal trivia. If everyone remembered that a FrameWorks post goes
to 700 people all over the world, and composed it accordingly, rather
than treating the list as a chat group and writing personal messages and
random details about one's life and thoughts, the group would once again
be as useful as it was in its early years. I joined in 1996, and at
first, I tried to read every post. Now I don't bother.
Fred Camper
Chicago
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