From: Myron Ort (email suppressed)
Date: Mon Dec 08 2008 - 08:10:29 PST
Seems like I recall that Brakhage made his 8mm Songs, 8mm Mothlight,
and 8mm WWBM available for sale for many years. I still have most all
of them that I obtained by trade or purchase during those years
{ including Window Suite of Children's Songs, but not the much longer
23rd Psalm Branch}. There must be quite a few of these prints out
there in people's collections, but I do not recall them coming up on
eBay very often. Are the songs still available in 8mm or are they
long ago sold out? Of the 8mm Songs I have, the color has maintained
remarkably well over the years, at least last time I viewed them. I
thought I saw that the Songs had been blown up to 16mm and were
available in that form. Anyone seen the 8mm Songs in 16mm blow up,
bet they look pretty interesting. Who else has some of the Songs? How
are they holding up?
Myron Ort
On Dec 7, 2008, at 7:09 PM, James Cole wrote:
> I read somewhere that Brakhage tried to sell 8mm prints of some of
> his films as sort of an early precursor to VHS. Anyone with more
> firsthand knowledge of this want to weigh in?
>
> On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Mark Toscano <email suppressed>
> wrote:
> Quite a few S8 sale copies of Love Making circulated. It's not
> like this was an editioned set of prints like Jack Goldstein's...
>
> Anyhow, these super-8 prints were made from double-rank 16/S8
> internegatives which themselves were printed from either reversal
> reductions off the originals, reversal reductions off of 2nd gen
> 16mm masters, or potentially directly from the originals
> themselves. I don't remember in the case of Love Making.
>
> Regardless, this is definitely going to be a faded Eastmancolor
> print that will look like shit. $499 is a pretty ludicrous price.
> It's true that the super 8 versions are basically not reprintable,
> making the ones that are extant somewhat unique-ish, but the
> original was 16mm, and new 16mm prints ARE printable, I'm guessing
> likely for around the same price as what this is going for.
>
> But this ebay copy has some aura, maybe. Depending on what you're
> into, that might be worth $499.
>
> mark t
>
>
> --- On Sun, 12/7/08, Myron Ort <email suppressed> wrote:
>
> > From: Myron Ort <email suppressed>
> > Subject: Re: [FRAMEWORKS] Film print as collectible (?)
> > To: email suppressed
> > Date: Sunday, December 7, 2008, 2:41 PM
> > I imagine this will generate some discussion.
> >
> > How much would a new and better looking print cost?
> >
> > eBay Item number: 150313374446
> >
> > Rare Original Stan Brakhage Super 8 print
> > "Lovemaking"
> > 1968 color 7 min. Grove Press Film EXCELLENT SHAPE!!
> >
> > Myron Ort
> >
> >
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