From: Matt Helme (email suppressed)
Date: Sat Jan 10 2009 - 15:27:25 PST
Good point. Let's not recognize any State.The current State in Israel should be abolished.
Matt
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From: Lisa Oppenheim <email suppressed>
To: email suppressed
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 5:35:22 PM
Subject: Re: Cameras for Gaza
Why recognize any State?
Why recognize France or Belgium, or Portugal or Spain for colonial aggressions and massive human rights violations?
Why recognize Germany for the holocaust?
Why recognize Japan for the WWII atrocities committed against the Chinese people?
Why recognize the UK for the oppression and starvation of the Irish?
Why recognize any number of North and South American countries for the murder and abuse of their first peoples?
Why recognize the United States?
Look.... The reality is that every country has blood on their hands. That does not disqualify any of these countries from having the right to exist.
I see every reason why Israel should be criticized but no reason why Israel should be singled out as not having the right to exist.
No one should have the power to make those kinds of decisions.
On Jan 10, 2009, at 5:01 PM, Matt Helme wrote:
Why recognize a Racist,Apartheid State?
Matt
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From: Peter Snowdon <email suppressed>
To: email suppressed
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 4:36:50 PM
Subject: Re: Cameras for Gaza
malgosia askanas wrote:
> Shelly Silver wrote:
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>> 800 palestinians dead
>> 14 israelis dead
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> We truly live in a new world - where wars are required to be waged in such a way as to make sure one's own casualties are comparable to those of the enemy. Well, I propose that if Hamas doesn't like these figures, they should agree to a real cease-fire, recognize Israel's right to exist, and stop terrorrizing the Israeli population. This would be a very hope-inspiring first step towards an acual peace-process.
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Quite. While we're at it, the UN could formally abolish the right of occupied peoples to resist their aggressors by force, thus bringing international law into line (at last!) with the state of play on the ground; the Navajo could surrender their remaining lands to Barack Obama the day he takes office, and at last be rid of all the stresses and strains which come with even a limited degree of autonomy; and Jews everywhere could apologise to the countless nations who have undertaken the hard work of persecuting and massacring them down the ages for having died in such large numbers, and with so little fuss, thus making their oppressors look like much worse people than they actually were, and generally depressing millions of casual onlookers.
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