From: Adam Hyman (email suppressed)
Date: Sat Jan 10 2009 - 17:23:15 PST
I think Matt is pretty clearly being ironic and joking there.
On 1/10/09 4:01 PM, "Lisa Oppenheim" <email suppressed> wrote:
> And who are you to make such stupid pronouncements?
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>> Good point. Let's not recognize any State.The current State in Israel should
>> be abolished.
>> Matt
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>> From: Lisa Oppenheim <email suppressed>
>> To: email suppressed
>> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 5:35:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: Cameras for Gaza
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>> Why recognize any State?
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>> Why recognize France or Belgium, or Portugal or Spain for colonial
>> aggressions and massive human rights violations?
>> Why recognize Germany for the holocaust?
>> Why recognize Japan for the WWII atrocities committed against the Chinese
>> people?
>> Why recognize the UK for the oppression and starvation of the Irish?
>> Why recognize any number of North and South American countries for the murder
>> and abuse of their first peoples?
>> Why recognize the United States?
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>> Look.... The reality is that every country has blood on their hands. That
>> does not disqualify any of these countries from having the right to exist.
>> I see every reason why Israel should be criticized but no reason why Israel
>> should be singled out as not having the right to exist.
>> No one should have the power to make those kinds of decisions.
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>> On Jan 10, 2009, at 5:01 PM, Matt Helme wrote:
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>>> Why recognize a Racist,Apartheid State?
>>> Matt
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>>> From: Peter Snowdon <email suppressed>
>>> To: email suppressed
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 4:36:50 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Cameras for Gaza
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>>> malgosia askanas wrote:
>>>> Shelly Silver wrote:
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>>>>> 800 palestinians dead
>>>>> 14 israelis dead
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>>>> We truly live in a new world - where wars are required to be waged in such
>>>> a way as to make sure one's own casualties are comparable to those of the
>>>> enemy. Well, I propose that if Hamas doesn't like these figures, they
>>>> should agree to a real cease-fire, recognize Israel's right to exist, and
>>>> stop terrorrizing the Israeli population. This would be a very
>>>> hope-inspiring first step towards an acual peace-process.
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>>> Quite. While we're at it, the UN could formally abolish the right of
>>> occupied peoples to resist their aggressors by force, thus bringing
>>> international law into line (at last!) with the state of play on the ground;
>>> the Navajo could surrender their remaining lands to Barack Obama the day he
>>> takes office, and at last be rid of all the stresses and strains which come
>>> with even a limited degree of autonomy; and Jews everywhere could apologise
>>> to the countless nations who have undertaken the hard work of persecuting
>>> and massacring them down the ages for having died in such large numbers, and
>>> with so little fuss, thus making their oppressors look like much worse
>>> people than they actually were, and generally depressing millions of casual
>>> onlookers.
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