From: Frank Wylie (email suppressed)
Date: Sun Jan 11 2009 - 08:00:34 PST
Ah, too bad. This listserv used to be about experimental film.
I try re-subscribing to this list every once in a while, but it never
lasts long.
Anyone have any alternative suggestions for a listserv that IS about
Experimental Film?
S. Frank Wylie
marco poloni wrote:
> Wow, that's really one-sided, and with flawed arguments.
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> First of all, a question to FRAMEWORKS: is this the right place to debate politics ???
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> Second: Your point about 800 dead palestinians vs 14 israeli dead. Right. Are you somehow implying that those 800 died because Hamas used them as shields, maybe as a way to attract international media attention, and pity? What view you have of the ethical precepts of Islam? What do you really, really, know about Islam? I don't think your argument is admissible nor sustainable.
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> I think that the ratio of 800 (of which 200 children?) vs 14 (only soldiers if I'm not mistaken) says what is what. A massacre is taking place before our lazy eyes. The rockets of Hamas are weapons of the poor, the only thing left to them to say that they exist and will resist Israeli's state massacre.
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> I suggest that, before making empty claims about how to reach peace, you steer away for a while from whatever newspapers and news you read, and carefully examine facts, which are actually easily found on non-aligned internet sources than in American media.
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> peace,
> marco
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> -----Original Message-----
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>> From: malgosia askanas <email suppressed>
>> Sent: Jan 10, 2009 3:24 PM
>> To: email suppressed
>> Subject: Re: Cameras for Gaza
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>> Shelly Silver wrote:
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>>> 800 palestinians dead
>>> 14 israelis dead
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>> We truly live in a new world - where wars are required to be waged in such a way as to make sure one's own casualties are comparable to those of the enemy. Well, I propose that if Hamas doesn't like these figures, they should agree to a real cease-fire, recognize Israel's right to exist, and stop terrorrizing the Israeli population. This would be a very hope-inspiring first step towards an acual peace-process.
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>> And if the Red Cross is "shocked" at civilian casualties, they should carefully examine Hamas' own treatment of Palestinian civilians - such as Hamas' practice of using homes and schools for warehousing of weapons and launching of missiles, or their practice of using civilians as living shields.
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>> -m
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