Re: Warsaw Ghetto

From: Peter Snowdon (email suppressed)
Date: Sun Jan 11 2009 - 09:51:03 PST


malgosia askanas wrote:
> Now that it can and does defend itself - now that it is effective at
> targeting enemy combattants while its cowardly enemies target
> civilians and hide behind their own civilians -
I signed up to Frameworks expecting to receive challenging and
experimental political rants from complete strangers, occasionally
interlaced with brief reviews of a new Malgosia Askanas or Emile
Tobenfeld film, usually penned by people who hadn't quite grasped the
list etiquette yet, and were thus easily forgiven.

However, I now find that while film reviewing is being kept within
reasonable proportions, many of the political arguments put forward here
simply consist of rehashed propaganda messages from official sources,
barely concealed by flimsy formal devices such as flagrant
self-contradiction, and failing to achieve even the very low level of
sophistication and/or integrity commonly found in the mainstream
commercial media.

Meanwhile, on my Palestinian solidarity listserv, Avi Shlaim and Leila
Shaheed have managed to embroil Elie Barnavi in a heated and pointless
debate as to whether Derek Jarman shot the /Angelic Conversation/ at 3
or 6 fps, thus ruining the atmosphere completely.

Can anyone here recommend an experimental film listserv that really IS
about politics?

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