From: Lisa Oppenheim (email suppressed)
Date: Sat Jan 10 2009 - 16:01:14 PST
And who are you to make such stupid pronouncements?
> Good point. Let's not recognize any State.The current State in
> Israel should be abolished.
> Matt
>
> From: Lisa Oppenheim <email suppressed>
> To: email suppressed
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 5:35:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Cameras for Gaza
>
> Why recognize any State?
>
> Why recognize France or Belgium, or Portugal or Spain for colonial
> aggressions and massive human rights violations?
> Why recognize Germany for the holocaust?
> Why recognize Japan for the WWII atrocities committed against the
> Chinese people?
> Why recognize the UK for the oppression and starvation of the Irish?
> Why recognize any number of North and South American countries for
> the murder and abuse of their first peoples?
> Why recognize the United States?
>
> Look.... The reality is that every country has blood on their
> hands. That does not disqualify any of these countries from having
> the right to exist.
> I see every reason why Israel should be criticized but no reason
> why Israel should be singled out as not having the right to exist.
> No one should have the power to make those kinds of decisions.
>
>
>
> On Jan 10, 2009, at 5:01 PM, Matt Helme wrote:
>
>> Why recognize a Racist,Apartheid State?
>> Matt
>>
>> From: Peter Snowdon <email suppressed>
>> To: email suppressed
>> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 4:36:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: Cameras for Gaza
>>
>> malgosia askanas wrote:
>> > Shelly Silver wrote:
>> >
>> >> 800 palestinians dead
>> >> 14 israelis dead
>> >>
>> >
>> > We truly live in a new world - where wars are required to be
>> waged in such a way as to make sure one's own casualties are
>> comparable to those of the enemy. Well, I propose that if Hamas
>> doesn't like these figures, they should agree to a real cease-
>> fire, recognize Israel's right to exist, and stop terrorrizing the
>> Israeli population. This would be a very hope-inspiring first
>> step towards an acual peace-process.
>> >
>> Quite. While we're at it, the UN could formally abolish the right
>> of occupied peoples to resist their aggressors by force, thus
>> bringing international law into line (at last!) with the state of
>> play on the ground; the Navajo could surrender their remaining
>> lands to Barack Obama the day he takes office, and at last be rid
>> of all the stresses and strains which come with even a limited
>> degree of autonomy; and Jews everywhere could apologise to the
>> countless nations who have undertaken the hard work of persecuting
>> and massacring them down the ages for having died in such large
>> numbers, and with so little fuss, thus making their oppressors
>> look like much worse people than they actually were, and generally
>> depressing millions of casual onlookers.
>>
>>
>>
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