From: Theodore King (email suppressed)
Date: Mon Feb 23 2009 - 11:36:58 PST
Dicky wrote:
> Miriam,
> I'm not sure where you will be able to find the film in Europe... but
> you should be able to find something. I always get my film in person
> from either Yale when I'm in Los Angeles or Action Camera when I'm in
> San Francisco, and they both do mail orders. Yale has some deal where
> you get a few dollars off if you buy the film from them and have them
> process it, however, they censor film if it has nudity, violence or
> occult imagery.
>
> And if you are going to process the film by hand, the G3 Morse will
> work perfectly.
>
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:50 AM, miriam jayne martins sampaio
> <email suppressed>> wrote:
>
> hey
> i just looked at your images dicky and they are certainly
> beautiful!! thanks for sending me the link! it sure makes me feel
> better. luckily i am leaving for home, portugal, which is a bit
> closer to the czech republic than here, canada.
>
> if i hand process my film can i use it in a G3 Morse developer for
> 16mm?
> i put in bid for that too so lets see but since this is a regular
> 8 camera what use it will it for me??
> miriam
>
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> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:30:26 -0800
> From: email suppressed>
>
> Subject: Re: HELP
> To: email suppressed>
>
> Hi Miriam,
> There's a really high amount of misinformation on this thread. I
> have made many films with Regular 8, and am working on one right
> now in fact, so let me try and correct some of these mistakes.
>
> Regular 8 cameras do not take 16 mm film per se; you cannot just
> go out and buy 16 mm film and put it in the camera. Regular 8 film
> is the same size as 16 mm film, and the sprocket holes are also
> the same size, except there are twice as many sprocket holes and
> they run along both sides of the film. Also, you cannot just
> splice it in with 16 mm film necessarily... because there are
> twice as many sprocket holes, you have to be careful about this.
> You have to count and make sure that there are an even number of
> sprocket holes in a strip if you plan on putting more 16 mm film
> after it. If there are an odd number of holes, the film will not
> catch in the claw, get torn up and potentially damage your
> projector; I know from experience!
>
> The film is usually sold in 25 foot canisters, although there is
> stock from Eastern Europe (I think the Czech Republic) called
> Fomopan that comes in 33 foot rolls. It's not the easiest film to
> find, but there are plenty of places that have it. Two that I know
> of off hand because they are the places I buy my film from are
> Action Camera in San Francisco and Yale Film and Video in Los
> Angeles.
>
> And if you'd like to just see what the film looks like if you
> leave it unslit, I have some stills from single and
> multi-projector works I've done with regular 8 film here:
> http://flickr.com/photos/thedicky/sets/72157608341201326/
> The only one that is in color, for instance, is a single
> projection of un-slit regular 8.
>
> Best,
> Rick Bahto
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Dinorah de Jesús Rodriguez
> <email suppressed>> wrote:
>
> i agree that you might want to hold on to this rare find. the
> effect produced by this double-8 camera when projected in 16mm
> is very cool. and yes, you can project it and cut the footage
> in with other regular 16mm footage. i had a bolex like this
> years ago and had to sell it (basically had kids to feed) and
> to this day, it is the one piece of equipment that i have most
> regretted parting with. this just might be a blessing in
> disguise, Miriam.
>
> enjoy today...
>
> Dinorah de Jesús Rodríguez
> Film/Video Artist and Freelance Writer
>
> _www.solislandmediaworks.com
> <http://web.mac.com/sol.island/iWeb/>_
> _www.artcinematic.blogspot.com_
> <http://artcinematic.blogspot.com/>
> _http://cinesthesia.blip.tv_ <http://cinesthesia.blip.tv/>
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 23, 2009, at 12:26 PM, Jorge Lorenzo Flores Garza wrote:
>
> Ohh, I guess that's a much better explanation from Mark!!
>
> Saludos,
>
> Jorge L.
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:19:59 -0800
> From: email suppressed>
> Subject: Re: HELP
> To: email suppressed
> <mailto:email suppressed>
>
> Miriam,
>
> You indeed purchased a Regular 8 (R8) camera. As you
> probably now realize, it takes 16mm film with sprocket
> holes specific for use in 8mm cameras. You shoot the roll
> of 25ft film which exposes half the frame, turn the film
> over and shoot another 25ft. After processing the film is
> split and spliced together.
>
> Although I haven't tried this, I'm told you can still
> project this film with a standard 16mm projector if you
> don't have it split after processing. You would basically
> see two frames simultaneously on the screen which may be
> of interest to you as a technique. Keep in mind that one
> frame would be right side up, while the other would be
> upside down due to the way the film goes through the
> camera. If you want both frames right side up you would
> have to shoot the last 25ft with the camera upside down.
>
> If you didn't pay much for the camera and it works you
> might want to keep it or this technique.
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* miriam jayne martins sampaio
> [mailto:email suppressed]
> *Sent:* Monday, February 23, 2009 9:00 AM
> *To:* email suppressed
> <mailto:email suppressed>
> *Subject:* HELP
>
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I kinda of screwed up when i bought this camera, Quarz
> 2x8S-1M FILM MOVIE CAMERA.
>
> Quarz 2x8S-1M FILM MOVIE CAMERA.
> The camera and it's zoom lens was manufactured at
> KRASNOGORSK factory in Moscow, USSR.
>
> Technical data
> Camera Type: movie film, film type: standard 16mm
> film, frame size: 4x5.5mm, 12, 18, 24, 36 frames/sec
> preset, internal light meter, single frame shooting,
> spring drive motor, intershangeable lenses.
>
> Lens: Jupiter-24M 1.9/12.5
>
> Let me say first that i know nothing about 16mm
> camera's and was super excited to find this one which
> seemed quite compact and a good reasonable price. i
> purchased it from from ebay. before purchasing it did
> show it to a friend who knows about camera's and he
> too assumed it was 16mm but its NOT!! it takes 16mm
> but its actually an 8mm?!?! goddess help me!
> does anyone know if it takes any kind of 16mm film??
>
> i feel like an idiot but....
> i have not received it and i did speak with the seller
> about this but....
> the ad was a bit misleading but ultimately it was my
> fault. so know i have a camera that i did not want??
>
>
> Miriam
>
>
>
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to find the film go to myoldcamera.com
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