From: Myron Ort (email suppressed)
Date: Tue Mar 03 2009 - 17:38:22 PST
Speaking of Beaulieu, when I researched online, I found out that
there are several workarounds for various battery replacements.
I was able to replace the battery in my 8mm Beaulieu and a nice old
Luna Pro light meter.
MO
On Mar 3, 2009, at 5:23 PM, Dinorah de Jesús Rodriguez wrote:
> don't you love Frameworks?
> Miriam, you are in the clear. get your money from this guy and
> save up for the Beaulieu!
>
> enjoy today...
>
> Dinorah de Jesús Rodríguez
> Film/Video Artist and Freelance Writer
>
> www.solislandmediaworks.com
> www.artcinematic.blogspot.com
> http://cinesthesia.blip.tv
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 3, 2009, at 8:09 PM, miriam jayne martins sampaio wrote:
>
>> you are right!?! you see i was sure i was not that naive?!?!
>> miriam
>>
>> Quartz Quarz 2x8S1M USSR 16mm film movie camera, extras
>>
>> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 18:54:15 -0500
>> From: email suppressed
>> Subject: Re: Get a refund!!!! RE: [FRAMEWORKS] 8mm versus 16mm
>> To: email suppressed
>>
>> In that link you sent out, under "technical description" it says
>> "film type: standard 16mm." It says 16mm in the subject heading.
>>
>> This is an open + shut case of misrepresentation. Get your money
>> back, or report his ass.
>>
>> -James
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 6:13 PM, miriam jayne martins sampaio
>> <email suppressed> wrote:
>> hi
>> i am back. finished class. i agree but i am sure he will repeat
>> what he originally said in one of his emails that 'it was written
>> in the technical description'.
>> we will see. i am sure he will email me tomorrow as he lives in
>> the Ukraine.
>>
>> miriam
>>
>> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:50:56 -0800
>> From: email suppressed
>>
>> Subject: Re: Get a refund!!!! RE: [FRAMEWORKS] 8mm versus 16mm
>> To: email suppressed
>>
>> eBay sellers should give the benefit of the doubt. If not, you
>> can use the Resolution Center . I am currently involved in
>> something similar with an item that had a misleading description
>> with the seller refusing a refund.
>>
>> mo
>>
>> zeno-okeanos.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 3, 2009, at 2:13 PM, miriam jayne martins sampaio wrote:
>>
>> hey everyone
>> i agree with everyone and thank you greatly for all your help!
>> thanks kristie!! i cannot get the my money back. he will not
>> refund as he says that it is stated in the technical information
>> that its a 8mm camera. i have no idea what to do because frankly
>> it does say that but i certainly did not understand it as such.
>> since it does say 16mm movie camera. i just send him an email
>> telling him i would like a refund. we will see if he will give it
>> to me. i highly doubt it as i said.
>>
>> i will be back in a while. gotta run to class.
>> thanks everyone
>> miriam
>>
>> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:47:38 -0500
>> From: email suppressed
>> Subject: Re: Get a refund!!!! RE: [FRAMEWORKS] 8mm versus 16mm
>> To: email suppressed
>>
>> i agree with these guys, miriam. unless you REALLY want to delve
>> into a new discipline (double 8mm) and learn all about it, there's
>> no reason for you to buy something that was misrepresented in the
>> ad. get your refund and look out for a nice Bolex, Beaulieau,
>> B&H, even a Canon Scoopic if you should ever run across one, or
>> any of the other great and inexpensive cameras out there. but if
>> you just want one good, reliable 16mm camera, the Krasnogorsk is
>> NOT it. i would guess that the 8mm is no more reliable than the
>> 16mm model. i think your best bet is the refund, and you're
>> perfectly entitled to it according to ebay rules.
>>
>> btw, kristie's offer to help you screen potential cameras is very
>> generous, i'd take her up on that.
>>
>> enjoy today...
>>
>> Dinorah de Jesús Rodríguez
>> Film/Video Artist and Freelance Writer
>>
>> www.solislandmediaworks.com
>> www.artcinematic.blogspot.com
>> http://cinesthesia.blip.tv
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 3, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Myron Ort wrote:
>>
>> Go to the eBay site map, choose "Resolution Center" and follow the
>> prompts. If you cannot resolve the issue (obtain refund for
>> misrepresented item) with the seller through direct communication
>> with seller, then you open a case.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 3, 2009, at 1:11 AM, k. a.r. wrote:
>>
>> Yep, After seeing the link, I agree with that guy a couple of
>> posts down, that camera was misrepresented.
>> I buy and sell a lot on eBay, and if the sellers misrepresent
>> something, it is their fault and you are not obligated to buy it.
>>
>> Tell him to refund your money.
>> He wrote 16mm not regular 8.
>>
>> His feedback rating is less than perfect, so you could
>> also tell him that you will give him negative feedback if he
>> doesn't refund you your money.
>>
>> Also tell him that you will file a complaint with paypal if he
>> doesn't give you back your money.
>> There are 3 reasons paypal will give you back your money, and
>> severely misrepresented
>> merchandise is one of them.
>> They will investigate it, and that takes time, but you will get
>> your money back,
>> and it will freeze his account while he is being investigated.
>> Many sellers do not want to deal
>> with this, and will refund your money.
>>
>> Also eBay changed the feed back policy, so the seller cannot leave
>> you negative feedback as revenge.
>> So don't worry about that....
>> If he doesn't want to refund your $, you could also contact eBay
>> and fight it,but paypal is your best first step after him.
>>
>> In the future, if you want, send me the link for any cameras you
>> want to buy, off list, and I will help you
>> figure out if it is what you want. I help a lot of my friends
>> with buying high $$$ items from eBay,
>> so I wouldn't mind helping another filmmaker. And don't worry, I
>> am probably never going to buy
>> another film camera, so I wouldn't bid the item out from under you.
>> Sincerely,
>> Kristie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kristie Reinders, B.F.A.
>> Director of Cinematography, Electric Visions
>> Curator and Head Projectionist, Electric Mural Project
>> The Mission, San Francisco, CA
>>
>> 'A first class technician should work best under pressure.'
>> - - - Issac Asimov
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