From: Cari Machet (email suppressed)
Date: Tue Mar 24 2009 - 09:29:32 PDT
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2009/3/24 Fred Camper <email suppressed>
> Cari Machet wrote:
>
> your right fred i was sort of personalizing my reaction to your reaction
>> i should have wrote what i was thinking about which is that if it had the
>> name of brakhage tagged to the film you would have been [sexual reference]
>> oh lets just say happy - don't get me wrong i love brakhage - but i question
>> whether there is a bias - maybe a bias against 'artists' that dare to pick
>> up a cam - maybe
>>
>
> That too is a personal attack. Here are positive reviews of filmmakers
> other than Brakhage that have been available free, on my site or linked to
> from my site, for years. Some of them may even be young people who "pick up
> a cam." But not everyone who simply "picks up a cam" should show their work
> publicly either...
>
> Stop posting blatant lies (and worse, lies in the form of personal attacks
> complete with sexual innuendoes) about other members of this listserv,
> please.
>
> http://www.chicagoreader.com/movies/archives/0697/06067b.html
> http://www.fredcamper.com/Film/Canterbury.html
> http://www.fredcamper.com/Film/Chambers.html
> http://www.sensesofcinema.com/contents/00/6/fihman.html
> http://www.fredcamper.com/Film/Friedrich.html
> http://www.fredcamper.com/Film/Friedrich1.html
> http://www.fredcamper.com/Film/Frye.html
> http://www.chireader.com/movies/archives/2002/0602/020628_2.html
> http://www.fredcamper.com/Film/Gehr.html
> http://www.fredcamper.com/Film/Gehr1.html
> http://www.fredcamper.com/Film/Gehr2.html
> http://www.fredcamper.com//Film/Geiser.html
> http://www.chireader.com/movies/archives/2002/0402/020419_2.html
> http://www.fredcamper.com/Film/Lebrat.html
> http://www.fredcamper.com/Film/Lipsett.html
> http://www.fredcamper.com/Film/Maclaine.html
> http://www.chireader.com/movies/archives/2003/1003/031003.html
> http://archive.sensesofcinema.com/contents/01/17/mekas_camper.html
> http://www.chireader.com/movies/archives/2001/0109/010907_2.html
> http://www.chicagoreader.com/movies/archives/2000/0600/000616.html
> http://www.chicagoreader.com/movies/archives/2000/0400/000428_1.html
> http://www.fredcamper.com/Film/Welsby.html
>
> Oh, and by the way, even in his mature period Brakhage made, and released,
> a few films that I think are simply bad. I told him that once or twice too,
> and he did not even get angry.
good for you fred!!!
that's great
ok it will take me time to read these links
i wonder though if you missed my point
which was an artist vs. filmmaker bias in the community
we'll see
>
>
> Fred Camper
> Chicago
>
>
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