From: malgosia askanas (email suppressed)
Date: Thu Mar 26 2009 - 17:18:00 PDT
Oh Cari Cari Cari,
You're either dumb or playing dumb. In either case, you're not worth
any more of my time.
-m
>if i am so barking up the wrong tree
>then why is it such a big deal
>plus once again you are missing or ignoring info
>which is
>i wasn't saying fred is that particular type of critic
>i was commenting on general critics
>and my experience of some theorists
>(talk about strawman building)
>AND
>what i did say about fred was that i think there is a bias on his
>part about brakhage
>i could be wrong
>if so make an argument to try and prove that i am
>instead of repeatedly making up things that i am saying
>so that you can argue against me regarding them
>
>
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>On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:33 PM, malgosia askanas
><<mailto:email suppressed> wrote:
>
>Cari wrote:
>
>if you think there is no malaise you are wrong
>in the film community AND the art community and
>lots of other communities
>you are missing or ignoring some information in my posts
>i have actually seen freds actual body and have experienced his writing
>many times
>he is the authority i am referencing
>he is specifically i would say THEE authority on brakhage
>so...
>
>i am not particularly in love with critics
>i align more with dada on such matters
>once the art movement is 'known' it is over
>plus there have been some way too powerful art critics
>which i find stifling to art making
>
>
>Cari, I've known Fred for 13 years, on Frameworks and in person.
>I've had many an enjoyable conversation with him, have read many of
>his writings, and followed, as much as I could remotely, his
>artwork. He introduced me to the films of Bela Tarr and to the
>concept of walking across the Triborough Bridge. I have never seen
>him take the attitude that "once the art movement is 'known' it is
>over", express the slightest desire to become one of those "way too
>powerful art critics " or take any position which would be "stifling
>to art making". In my opinion, you are SOOO barking up the wrong
>tree. You're erecting a strawman and then getting us all into a
>furious fight over it. I can see how there is some fun in it, but
>I submit to you that there is way more fun in furiously fighting
>about films and our perceptions of them, than about our
>psychological hangups. And yes, Fred knows more about Brakhage than
>almost anybody. I would say that's a good thing, no?
>
>Dada, that's definitely the spirit of the times. We are all Dada now.
>
>
>
>-m
>
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