From: JEFFREY PAULL (email suppressed)
Date: Thu Apr 01 2010 - 03:53:15 PDT
Greetings, Vassily,
Wow! Thanks for the tip:
I'd have never EVER thought of removing the REM-jet layer AFTER processing!
Ace idea!
Jeffrey Paull
On Wed 31/03/10 19:56 , vassily bourikas email suppressed sent:
> Hello Viktoria, Jeffrey, Ed,
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> First of all thank you for bringing up this topics again, matters were not
> really clarified last time both subjects were discussed here a while ago.
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> I hope that more frameworkers will contribute information regarding the
> development of Kodakchrome as b/w reversal or even as b/w negative. I
> appreciate too that it is a beautiful stock but when one lives in Europe it
> is not so easy to post to Kansas. I have relocated to Greece recently
> because of work and with the economic crisis here it is even more difficult
> for most people to shoot film, let alone post it to the US for development.
> And in any case there are friends here who have really old exposed or
> unexposed Kodakchromes. If I am not mistaken Dwayne's will not process
> cartridges that expired in the previous century.
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> I have not very much to contribute at the moment but if any of you has
> suggestions I do own some relatively fresh 16mm and super8 Kodakchromes
> that I could test these suggestions with and get back to you with the
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> My first and only attempt so far was unsuccessful. I processed a cartridge
> of Kodakchrome as b/w negative using TMAX and all I got was just a clear
> leader (after removing the rem-jet). Any comments on why this could have
> happened would be very welcome. I did not get even a hint of an image and I
> used two different cameras. That one was
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> As far as rem-jet is concerned I have processed Fujichrome in 3 different
> occasions using E6 and removed the rem-jet afterward. It was not as hard as
> doing it in the dark would be, I guess. I used a silk handkerchief in a
> bathtub full of water, it is a little time consuming but it did not smear
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> Looking forward to any info on the subjects and thanks again for bringing
> it up.
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> Vassily Bourikas
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> On Mar 31, 2010, at 11:07 PM, JEFFREY PAULL (address suppressed)
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> > Unfortunately, unlike all other colour films,
> Kodachrome brand has its colours added in the Kodachrome chemicals,
> > so there are no colour molecules in the film itself. So
> there's no way to get any colour, regardless of any surprise renditions'
> > even if you developed it in any brands of E-6 or C-41
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> > Kodachrome, because it's assumed to be processed in
> industrial machines on an industrial scale,
> > has a backing or coating made out of carbon "dust" in a
> water-soluable base.
> > The industrial machines clean this off in a way that
> this "paint" doesn't stick to the film as it moves along the process.
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> > On a personal scale, you'd have to remove this backing,
> in complete blackness, with a small wet rag.
> > And you'd have to do this along the whole long wet
> strip of film without schmeering any of this
> > wet black "paint" on the image.
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> > It can be done, but you'd have to have some sort of
> set-up and practice (and disappointment and gloppy pictures first)
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> > Maybe somebody else knows easier ways to get rid of
> that black layer that's called a REM-jet layer.
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> > On Tue 30/03/10 15:52 , Viktoria schmid vik
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> >> has anyone experience with developing kodachromefilms
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> >> foma-b/w-chemistry or any other b/w-chemistry?are
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> >> effects or will it be just a normal black and white
> film? I know
> >> it's a shame to waste the nice colour-stock, but I
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> >> afford it to send it to Kansas...
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