From: info (email suppressed)
Date: Fri May 07 2010 - 09:43:31 PDT
Thanks for all the info on Ito. We have a print of Spacy and nothing else
so will check these sources.
Stephen
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> Topics in this special issue:
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> 1. Info about Takashi Ito?
> 2. Bearded Child/ ARKUFF
> 3. Student question (2)
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 04:40:36 +0900
> From: Hang Jun Lee <email suppressed>
> Subject: Re: Info about Takashi Ito?
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> Imageforum published the Takashi Ito's dvd last year. Please check out belo=
> w
> info.
>
> http://www.imageforum.co.jp/ito/dvd_e.html
>
> 2009.12.18 DVD on sale
> Takashi Ito Film Anthology
>
> DAD09041 / 4,935 JPY=A3=A8tax included=A3=A9
>
> Product details
> * Directors: Takashi Ito
> * Format: Full Screen, Black & White, Colour, NTSC
> * Region: Region 0
> * Aspect Ratio: 1.33:1
> * Number of discs: 2
> * Studio: Daguerreo Press, Inc
> * DVD Release Date: 18 Dec 2009
> * Run Time: 150 minutes
>
> Disc One (73min.)
>
> Spacy / Box / Thunder / Screw / Drill / Ghost / Grim / Photo Diary / Wall /
> Photo Diary 87 / Devil=A1=AFs Circuit / The Mummy=A1=AFs Dream / Venus
>
> Disc Two (77min.)
>
> December Hide-and-Go-Seek / THE MOON / ZONE / Apparatus M / MONOCHROME HEAD
> / Dizziness / A Silent Day
>
>
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> Imageforum published the Takashi Ito's dvd last year. Please check out =
> below info.<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.imageforum.co.jp/ito/dvd_e.html">h=
> ttp://www.imageforum.co.jp/ito/dvd_e.html</a><br><br><div class=3D"info1">=
> =20
> <p>2009.12.18 DVD on sale<br>=20
> Takashi Ito Film Anthology </p>=20
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> =20
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> <p class=3D"dvd_film">DAD09041 / 4,935 JPY=A3=A8tax included=A3=
> =A9</p>=20
> <p class=3D"dvd_film"> Product details<br>=20
> * Directors: Takashi Ito<br>=20
> * Format: Full Screen, Black & White, Colour, NTSC<br>=20
> * Region: Region 0 <br>=20
> * Aspect Ratio: 1.33:1<br>=20
> * Number of discs: 2<br>=20
> * Studio: Daguerreo Press, Inc<br>=20
> * DVD Release Date: 18 Dec 2009<br>=20
> * Run Time: 150 minutes</p><br>=20
> <p class=3D"dvd_mds">Disc One (73min.)</p>=20
> <p class=3D"dvd_film">Spacy / Box / Thunder / Screw / Drill /=20
> Ghost / Grim / Photo Diary / Wall / Photo Diary 87 / Devil=A1=AFs Circuit /=
> =20
> The Mummy=A1=AFs Dream / Venus</p>=20
> <p class=3D"dvd_mds">Disc Two (77min.)</p>=20
> <p class=3D"dvd_film">December Hide-and-Go-Seek / THE MOON /=20
> ZONE / Apparatus M / MONOCHROME HEAD / Dizziness / A Silent Day</p>=20
> </div><br>
> <p>
> __________________________________________________________________
> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <email suppressed>.
> <p>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 20:37:04 -0400
> From: Ben Barton <email suppressed>
> Subject: Re: Bearded Child/ ARKUFF
>
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> Hello
>
>
> I'm just checking in to see if you received my submission? (It was called=
> 'Getting Ready')
>
> best wishes
>
> Ben Barton
>
>
> =20
>
>
> =20
>
> =20
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Anderson <email suppressed>
> To: email suppressed
> Sent: Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:55 pm
> Subject: [FRAMEWORKS] Bearded Child/ ARKUFF
>
>
> Hello all,
>
>
> The Bearded Child Film Festival will be hosting a screening of weird/under=
> ground contemporary films at the Arkansas Underground Film Festival, June=
> 18-20, 2010, in Hot Springs Nat'l Park, Arkansas. I'm looking for weird=
> folk-art film/video of any genre, and ideally work that has not been reco=
> gnized at festivals or has had few public showings. I'm also looking for=
> visual performance artists that may live near or be able to travel to cen=
> tral Arkansas.
>
>
> This post is mainly geared towards recommendations, but would certainly we=
> lcome submissions from anyone who may fit this mold. There is no fee or en=
> try form, but please supply as much information as possible with a submitt=
> ed DVD or VHS.
>
>
> "ARKUFF" is a festival that mixes contemporary underground work with that=
> of classic/historical underground artists. We will be screening the early=
> films of David Lynch, Kenneth Anger and others in historical context. Las=
> t year we showed work by George Melies, Oscar Fischinger, Stan Brakhage,=
> Andy Warhol, George Kuchar and many more.
>
>
> 2009 ARKUFF schedule:
> http://hsdfi.org/arkuff/2009schedule.html
>
>
> Bearded Child 2001-present schedules:
> www.beardedchild.com (under construction)
>
>
> Direct submissions/recommendations to:
>
>
> Bearded Child Film Festival
> c/o Low Key Arts
> 118 Arbor Street
> Hot Springs Nat'l Park, AR
> email suppressed
>
>
> Thank You!!
> __________________________________________________________________For info=
> on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <email suppressed>.
>
> =20
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________
> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <email suppressed>.
>
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> <div>=20
> <div> Hello<br>
> </div>
> <font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">
> <br>
>
> I'm just checking in to see if you received my submission? (It was=
> called 'Getting Ready')<br>
>
> <br>
>
> best wishes<br>
>
> <br>
>
> Ben Barton<br>
>
> <br>
>
> </font></font></div>
>
> <div> <br>
> </div>
>
> <div style=3D"clear: both;"></div>
>
> <div> <br>
> </div>
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> <div> <br>
> </div>
>
> <div style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: black;=
> ">-----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Dan Anderson <email suppressed><br>
> To: email suppressed<br>
> Sent: Wed, Mar 31, 2010 9:55 pm<br>
> Subject: [FRAMEWORKS] Bearded Child/ ARKUFF<br>
> <br>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <div id=3D"AOLMsgPart_2_416f96b7-3571-4b80-b6bb-a919ad500238">
>
> Hello all,
> <div><br>
> </div>
>
> <div>The Bearded Child Film Festival will be hosting a screening of weird/=
> underground contemporary films at the Arkansas Underground Film Festival,=
> June 18-20, 2010, in Hot Springs Nat'l Park, Arkansas. I'm looking for we=
> ird folk-art film/video of any genre, and ideally work that has not been=
> recognized at festivals or has had few public showings. I'm also looking=
> for visual performance artists that may live near or be able to travel to=
> central Arkansas.</div>
>
>
> <div><br>
> </div>
>
> <div>This post is mainly geared towards recommendations, but would certain=
> ly welcome submissions from anyone who may fit this mold. There is no fee=
> or entry form, but please supply as much information as possible with a=
> submitted DVD or VHS.</div>
>
>
> <div><br>
> </div>
>
> <div>"ARKUFF" is a festival that mixes contemporary underground work with=
> that of classic/historical underground artists. We will be screening the=
> early films of David Lynch, Kenneth Anger and others in historical contex=
> t. Last year we showed work by George Melies, Oscar Fischinger, Stan Brakh=
> age, Andy Warhol, George Kuchar and many more.</div>
>
>
> <div><br>
> </div>
>
> <div>2009 ARKUFF schedule:</div>
>
> <div><a target=3D"_blank" __removedlink__883756975__href=3D"http://hsdfi.o=
> rg/arkuff/2009schedule.html">http://hsdfi.org/arkuff/2009schedule.html>=
> </div>
>
> <div><br>
> </div>
>
> <div>Bearded Child 2001-present schedules:</div>
>
> <div>
> <a target=3D"_blank" __removedlink__883756975__href=3D"http://www.beardedc=
> hild.com">www.beardedchild.com</a> (under construction)</div>
>
> <div><br>
> </div>
>
> <div>Direct submissions/recommendations to:</div>
>
> <div><br>
> </div>
>
> <div>Bearded Child Film Festival</div>
>
> <div>c/o Low Key Arts</div>
>
>
> <div>118 Arbor Street</div>
>
> <div>Hot Springs Nat'l Park, AR</div>
>
> <div><a __removedlink__883756975__href=3D"mailto:email suppressed">bcf=
> email suppressed</a></div>
>
> <div><br>
> </div>
>
> <div>Thank You!!</div>
>
>
> <div>
> __________________________________________________________________
> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <<a __removedlink__8837=
> 56975__href=3D"mailto:email suppressed</a>>.
> </div>
>
> <div>
>
> </div>
> </div>
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> </font>
> <p>
> __________________________________________________________________
> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <email suppressed>.
> <p>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 23:44:15 -0400
> From: Alex McCarron <email suppressed>
> Subject: Student question
>
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>
> Hi guys,
>
> So I'm a film student and I trying to figure out how to cut a film I shot on
> 16mm reversal.
>
> I kind of just want to cut the camera original and then figure out how to
> add a voice over later, printing it when I can afford it and maybe just
> using a boom box or my own voice before then.
>
> I've been warned this is a terrible idea by someone I consider to represent
> the odious forces of Production Quality but whose opinion I otherwise
> respect.
>
> My rationale is this:
> A.) Pac Lab already scratched my footage, I have some exposure problems and
> some dirt already on the film from using Temple University projectors. I
> don't really know how much more I can screw up my film and the film has a
> deliberate amateurish tone anyway.
>
> B.) I love the difference between what I shot looks like projected and what
> it looks telecined. I wonder if I started making prints if I would dislike
> the lack of that originality, if I would lose the aura that maybe is part of
> reversal filmmaking.
>
> C.) This film might be illegal and just meant for my friends anyway. I
> recorded a bunch of people's faces on the street and I might end up using
> copyrighted footage.
>
> Really the main problem is money but I wonder if it's a lost cause trying to
> make this film look pristine and if I really care anyway.
>
> I was wondering if anyone on here had any thoughts though.
>
> Sorry for the long message.
>
> Thanks,
> Alex McCarron
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________
> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <email suppressed>.
>
>
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> Hi guys,<br><br>So I'm a film student and I trying to figure out how to=
> cut a film I shot on 16mm reversal.<br><br>I kind of just want to cut the =
> camera original and=20
> then figure out how to add a voice over later, printing it when I can affor=
> d it and maybe just using a boom box or my own voice before then.<br>
> <br>
> I've been warned this is a terrible idea by someone I consider to=20
> represent the odious forces of Production Quality but whose opinion I other=
> wise=20
> respect.<br>
> <br>
> My rationale is this:<br>
> A.) Pac Lab already scratched my footage, I have some exposure problems=20
> and some dirt already on the film from using Temple University projectors. =
> I don't=20
> really know how much more I can screw up my film and the film has a deliber=
> ate amateurish tone anyway.<br>
> <br>
> B.) I love the difference between what I shot looks like projected and=20
> what it looks telecined. I wonder if I started making prints if I would=20
> dislike the lack of that originality, if I would lose the aura that=20
> maybe is part of reversal filmmaking.<br>
> <br>
> C.) This film might be illegal and just meant for my friends=20
> anyway. I recorded a bunch of people's faces on the street and I might =
> end up using copyrighted footage.<br><br>Really the main problem is money b=
> ut I wonder if it's a lost cause trying to make this film look pristine=
> and if I really care anyway.<br>
> <br>I was wondering if anyone on here had any thoughts though.<br><br>Sorry=
> for the long message.<br><br>Thanks,<br>Alex McCarron<br>
> <p>
> __________________________________________________________________
> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <email suppressed>.
> <p>
>
> --0050450163408d56100485f8df10--
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 23:54:40 -0400
> From: lj frezza <email suppressed>
> Subject: Re: Student question
>
> --001e680f1630d120da0485f9044b
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>
> as for the copyrighted footage don't worry at all about it. it's definitely
> fair use if you're doing it for educational purposes, and you won't be
> hurting the profits of the copyright owner at all from using their material
> in your movie. we all need to be less afraid of media corporations
>
> as for printing, there will be differences depending on the stocks that you
> use in terms of latitudes and color saturation. i'm not really en expert on
> film stocks, though, so i couldn't help you there
>
> -lj
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Alex McCarron <email suppressed>wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> So I'm a film student and I trying to figure out how to cut a film I shot
>> on 16mm reversal.
>>
>> I kind of just want to cut the camera original and then figure out how to
>> add a voice over later, printing it when I can afford it and maybe just
>> using a boom box or my own voice before then.
>>
>> I've been warned this is a terrible idea by someone I consider to represent
>> the odious forces of Production Quality but whose opinion I otherwise
>> respect.
>>
>> My rationale is this:
>> A.) Pac Lab already scratched my footage, I have some exposure problems and
>> some dirt already on the film from using Temple University projectors. I
>> don't really know how much more I can screw up my film and the film has a
>> deliberate amateurish tone anyway.
>>
>> B.) I love the difference between what I shot looks like projected and what
>> it looks telecined. I wonder if I started making prints if I would dislike
>> the lack of that originality, if I would lose the aura that maybe is part of
>> reversal filmmaking.
>>
>> C.) This film might be illegal and just meant for my friends anyway. I
>> recorded a bunch of people's faces on the street and I might end up using
>> copyrighted footage.
>>
>> Really the main problem is money but I wonder if it's a lost cause trying
>> to make this film look pristine and if I really care anyway.
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone on here had any thoughts though.
>>
>> Sorry for the long message.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alex McCarron
>>
>> __________________________________________________________________ For info
>> on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <email suppressed>.
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> ljfrezza.com
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________
> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <email suppressed>.
>
>
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>
> as for the copyrighted footage don't worry at all about it. it's de=
> finitely fair use if you're doing it for educational purposes, and you =
> won't be hurting the profits of the copyright owner at all from using t=
> heir material in your movie. we all need to be less afraid of media corpora=
> tions<br>
> <br>as for printing, there will be differences depending on the stocks that=
> you use in terms of latitudes and color saturation. i'm not really en =
> expert on film stocks, though, so i couldn't help you there<br><br>
> -lj<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Alex McC=
> arron <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:email suppressed">alex=
> email suppressed</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
> te" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204=
> , 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
> Hi guys,<br><br>So I'm a film student and I trying to figure out how to=
> cut a film I shot on 16mm reversal.<br><br>I kind of just want to cut the =
> camera original and=20
> then figure out how to add a voice over later, printing it when I can affor=
> d it and maybe just using a boom box or my own voice before then.<br>
> <br>
> I've been warned this is a terrible idea by someone I consider to=20
> represent the odious forces of Production Quality but whose opinion I other=
> wise=20
> respect.<br>
> <br>
> My rationale is this:<br>
> A.) Pac Lab already scratched my footage, I have some exposure problems=20
> and some dirt already on the film from using Temple University projectors. =
> I don't=20
> really know how much more I can screw up my film and the film has a deliber=
> ate amateurish tone anyway.<br>
> <br>
> B.) I love the difference between what I shot looks like projected and=20
> what it looks telecined. I wonder if I started making prints if I would=20
> dislike the lack of that originality, if I would lose the aura that=20
> maybe is part of reversal filmmaking.<br>
> <br>
> C.) This film might be illegal and just meant for my friends=20
> anyway. I recorded a bunch of people's faces on the street and I might =
> end up using copyrighted footage.<br><br>Really the main problem is money b=
> ut I wonder if it's a lost cause trying to make this film look pristine=
> and if I really care anyway.<br>
>
> <br>I was wondering if anyone on here had any thoughts though.<br><br>Sorry=
> for the long message.<br><br>Thanks,<br>Alex McCarron<br>
> <p>
> __________________________________________________________________
> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <<a href=3D"mailto:PipCh=
> email suppressed</a>>.
> </p><p>
> </p></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><a href=3D"http://l=
> jfrezza.com">ljfrezza.com</a><br>
> <p>
> __________________________________________________________________
> For info on FrameWorks, contact Pip Chodorov at <email suppressed>.
> <p>
>
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