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Today's Topics:
1. Re: weird! (Jim Flannery)
2. Re: weird! (Sam Wells)
3. Re: weird! (Jim Flannery)
4. Re: weird! (Roger Beebe)
5. Re: weird! (Sam Wells)
6. Re: weird! (jason livingston)
7. Re: weird! (Sam Wells)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:15:21 -0700
From: Jim Flannery <email suppressed>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] weird!
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <email suppressed>
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Friday, June 4, 2010, 9:16:50 AM, one wrote:
> what a bizarre list (I suppose they always are)
> http://www.filmlinc.com/fcm/mj10/agpoll.htm
Bizarre in what way? Aside from the lack of any Japanese names (and only
one Austrian) it's pretty much in line from what i remember of the
decade and about what you'd expect from the listed participants.
Certainly the WTF content is much lower than the run of lists of
mainstream/arthouse features ...
-- Jim Flannery email suppressed ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 13:20:59 -0400 From: Sam Wells <email suppressed> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] weird! To: Experimental Film Discussion List <email suppressed> Message-ID: <email suppressed> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" What is bizzare about it ? Two of my all time fav films, God of Day and Song and Solitude are there; strange Phil S. ties w/ Brakhage but only one part from In Memoriam is listed with low votes --- I think because folks have not really caught up to what he's doing... Haven't seen Pitcher of Colored Light butSotiros I'd put right up there - I'm sure there ar very coo things on this list I haven't seen yet - When It Was Blue On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:16 PM, jason livingston < email suppressed> wrote: > what a bizarre list (I suppose they always are) > -Sam -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/pipermail/frameworks/attachments/20100604/22cc6279/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:21:07 -0700 From: Jim Flannery <email suppressed> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] weird! To: Experimental Film Discussion List <email suppressed> Message-ID: <email suppressed> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Friday, June 4, 2010, 10:15:21 AM, I wrote: > (and only > one Austrian) Oh, I missed Kubelka on my second pass. Even so. -- Jim email suppressed ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:41:41 -0700 From: Roger Beebe <email suppressed> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] weird! To: Experimental Film Discussion List <email suppressed> Message-ID: <email suppressed> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Pretty sure Tomonari Nishikawa still counts as Japanese, doesn't he? I know he was schooled in the U.S., but... (Not defending this list. Biting my tongue.) R. On Jun 4, 2010, at 10:15 AM, Jim Flannery wrote: > Friday, June 4, 2010, 9:16:50 AM, one wrote: > >> what a bizarre list (I suppose they always are) >> http://www.filmlinc.com/fcm/mj10/agpoll.htm > > Bizarre in what way? Aside from the lack of any Japanese names (and only > one Austrian) it's pretty much in line from what i remember of the > decade and about what you'd expect from the listed participants. > Certainly the WTF content is much lower than the run of lists of > mainstream/arthouse features ... > > -- > > Jim Flannery > email suppressed > > > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > email suppressed > http://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 13:57:32 -0400 From: Sam Wells <email suppressed> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] weird! To: Experimental Film Discussion List <email suppressed> Message-ID: <email suppressed> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Agree, disagree, ok but I'm still wondering what makes it "bizarre" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/pipermail/frameworks/attachments/20100604/0b87f504/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 14:05:12 -0400 From: jason livingston <email suppressed> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] weird! To: <email suppressed> Message-ID: <SNT125-(address suppressed)> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ok, maybe 'bizarre' wasn't quite right. I'm just surprised by some of the list. There definitely are some strong titles and names; and I too look forward to seeing those I haven't yet seen. And please don't get me wrong here - because I don't want to start a flame-out nor encourage a rants-and-raves style gripe session - but the list does strike me as curiously heavy on the elders and vets. On the other hand, maybe the 2000s really were a renaissance for people who've been at it for a long time? JasonIthaca, NY _+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_http://jasontlivingston.com/+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+ Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 13:57:32 -0400 From: email suppressed To: email suppressed Subject: Re: [Frameworks] weird! Agree, disagree, ok but I'm still wondering what makes it "bizarre" _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/pipermail/frameworks/attachments/20100604/64b25e06/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 14:17:29 -0400 From: Sam Wells <email suppressed> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] weird! To: Experimental Film Discussion List <email suppressed> Message-ID: <email suppressed> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > but the list does strike me as curiously heavy on the elders and vets. > Or mid-vets, Jen Reeves, David Gatten, quite a few here. > On the other hand, maybe the 2000s really were a renaissance for people > who've been at it for a long time > Gotta not get to carried away with calanders. "God of Day" is Brakhage's "best" film, if I believed in "best" which I don't. "Song and Solitude" is a summation of songs that movers into a variation on mise-en-scene, new for Dorsky. Only Phil in digital is truly avant on this list. (but the Videogame "Tension" / "The Void" would go on my list as would "Avatar" not because it's deep but because it's Melies jumping off the picture plane -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/pipermail/frameworks/attachments/20100604/5821c8c3/attachment.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ FrameWorks mailing list email suppressed http://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks End of FrameWorks Digest, Vol 1, Issue 8 ****************************************