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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Eiki 16mm SL-0 power conversion us/uk (Joshua Yumibe)
2. Seeking Fuji 8632 125T (adam r. levine)
3. Re: Seeking Fuji 8632 125T (Amanda Christie)
4. Re: Seeking Fuji 8632 125T (Amanda Christie)
5. New JUMP CUT online (Chuck Kleinhans)
6. Film / Video Collectives? (email suppressed)
7. Re: Film / Video Collectives? (Pip Chodorov)
8. Re: Film / Video Collectives? (Amanda Christie)
9. Re: Film / Video Collectives? (Amanda Christie)
10. Re: Film / Video Collectives? (anja ross)
11. Re: 21st Century Limited (Sam Wells)
12. Re: 21st Century Limited (Sam Wells)
13. Re: 21st Century Limited (Roger Beebe)
14. request to change address for Frameworks list (daniel maldonado)
15. Re: 21st Century Limited (40 Frames)
16. Re: 21st Century Limited (Sam Wells)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 13:59:53 -0400
From: Joshua Yumibe <email suppressed>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Eiki 16mm SL-0 power conversion us/uk
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Hi Rob,
Oh! Great, that's a huge difference and much less of a problem. I just assumed it was higher and added too many zeros.
Many thanks,
Josh
On Jul 11, 2010, at 1:00 PM, email suppressed wrote:
> From: Joshua Yumibe <email suppressed>
> Date: July 11, 2010 9:53:55 AM EDT
> To: email suppressed
> Subject: [Frameworks] Eiki 16mm SL-0 power conversion us/uk
> Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List <email suppressed>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Technical question: I'm in the process of moving to the UK (Scotland), and I was wondering if anyone has advice for power conversions on an Eiki 16mm SL-0. It's a US model, so it's 120v, total wattage according to the tag is .43kw (4300 watts). I could buy a 120/240v 5000w converter I suppose, or possibly try to swap the power supply if I could track one down. Though that might cost more than I actually paid for the projector. Or I could simply leave it stateside with a friend, though I'd like to take it.
>
> Any suggestions, dealing with power conversions on these things, would be much appreciated.
>
> Josh Yumibe
> email suppressed
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>
>
> From: Robert Houllahan <email suppressed>
> Date: July 11, 2010 10:25:06 AM EDT
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <email suppressed>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Eiki 16mm SL-0 power conversion us/uk
> Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List <email suppressed>
>
>
>> conversions on an Eiki 16mm SL-0. It's a US model, so it's 120v, total wattage according to the tag is .43kw (4300 watts).
>
> That is 430 watts not 4300 watts.....
>
> -Rob-
>
>
>
> Robert Houllahan
> www.cinelab.com
> www.lunarfilms.com
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 12:50:40 -0700
From: "adam r. levine" <email suppressed>
Subject: [Frameworks] Seeking Fuji 8632 125T
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <email suppressed>
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Hello,
Do any Frameworkers happen to have some of this discontinued Fuji stock
laying around that they would be interested in parting with (for a fair
price!)?
Thanks,
Adam
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 18:21:45 -0300
From: Amanda Christie <email suppressed>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Seeking Fuji 8632 125T
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <email suppressed>
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Hi Mario,
I was just going to write to you! To let you know that we've just
added a big expansion to Faucet and we're having a "Grand Open House"
on Friday night at 7pm.... the new space is just upstairs from Struts
(the yellow door)... and it has a 16mm steenbeck, an optical printer,
an animation stand, a green screen, and an electronics lab... and
downstairs has HD equipment now.
I was hoping to let folks i Moncton know... it would be lovely if some
of you lovely folks were able to make it down for a visit on Friday
evening!
if not, that's fine...
oh, and for the mailing address for my film... just remove the Apt.
#1... I moved out... but the rest of the address is the same for
Struts Gallery... so you can just sen it to struts gallery if I don't
see you on Friday night.
Hope you're well!
Amanda Dawn Christie
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Master of Fine Arts
www.amandadawnchristie.ca
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506-871-2062
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On 11-Jul-10, at 4:50 PM, adam r. levine wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Do any Frameworkers happen to have some of this discontinued Fuji
> stock laying around that they would be interested in parting with
> (for a fair price!)?
>
> Thanks,
> Adam
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 18:24:34 -0300
From: Amanda Christie <email suppressed>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Seeking Fuji 8632 125T
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <email suppressed>
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oops! sorry folks, I accidentally replied to the wrong email....
shoot!
[insert blushing here]
well, let's make the best of it... now you know that the faucet media
arts centre (in the booming metropolis of sackville, new brunswick),
has just expanded it's facilities....
if you are in new brunswick (east coast of canada)... you're welcome
to come to the open house too.... friday night at 7pm.
hooray!
Amanda Dawn Christie
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Master of Fine Arts
www.amandadawnchristie.ca
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506-871-2062
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 20:42:15 -0700
From: Chuck Kleinhans <email suppressed>
Subject: [Frameworks] New JUMP CUT online
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <email suppressed>
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JUMP CUT no. 52
Free, Online, Now!
http://www.ejumpcut.org/home.html
A massive issue chock full of treats for every interest.
JUMP CUT: A Review of Contemporary Media, summer 2010
Perfect summer reading for your iPad at the beach or pool!
Experimental Documentaries
Wees on Forgacs Meanwhile, Somewhere
Pramaggiore on 11?09?01?September 11, 2001
Feldman on The Man With the Movie Camera: The Global Remake
Mrles on The Shoebox
Hansen on Body Docs
Standard Operating Procedure reframed
Andrews, Nichols, Kahana, Williams, Leimbacher
Experimental and Art Worlds
Andrews, Revisiting ?The Two Avant-Gardes?
Ramey, Economics of the film avant-garde
Moscato, Media activism in Buffalo NY
Mondloch, Artist?s cinema
Gadassik, Hollywood animation
Felleman, Modern art and network TV
Kleinhans, resources for studying the avant garde media
and lots more: global cinema, Corporate Hollywood, US features, and
Sex, Horror & Torture
Chuck Kleinhans
Co-editor, JUMP CUT: A Review of Contemporary Media
www.ejumpcut.org
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 04:21:44 -0400
From: email suppressed
Subject: [Frameworks] Film / Video Collectives?
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Hey,
I'm doing a little research / survey on currently, or recently, active film/video collectives. Who wants to start the list?
Matt
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 11:35:24 +0200
From: Pip Chodorov <email suppressed>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Film / Video Collectives?
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <email suppressed>
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Matt,
you'll find a list of cooperative production labs on this site:
http://www.filmlabs.org/index.php/site/home/
And on the same site, links to all the distribution coops:
http://www.filmlabs.org/index.php/links/distribution/
-Pip
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 08:04:46 -0300
From: Amanda Christie <email suppressed>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Film / Video Collectives?
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <email suppressed>
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If you are including cooperatives and artist run-centres in your list,
there is an extensive list of Canadian Independent Media Arts
Organizations on the IMAA website (these are centres that are members
of the IMAA/AAMI)
the IMAA is the Independent Media Arts Alliance which is a non-profit
national arts service organization that promotes and advances the
interests of our media arts community. Representing over 80
independent film, video, and new media production, distribution, and
exhibition organizations in all parts of Canada, the IMAA serves over
12,000 independent media artists and cultural workers.
Amanda Dawn Christie
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Master of Fine Arts
www.amandadawnchristie.ca
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506-871-2062
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 08:08:41 -0300
From: Amanda Christie <email suppressed>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Film / Video Collectives?
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <email suppressed>
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If you're looking more for creation collectives (groups of people who
work together on the same project) rather than cooperatives (groups of
people who share equipment but work independently).... I can list a
few Canadian ones.
some creation collectives in Canada include:
1) the double negative collective
2) the IRiSs Lab
IRiSs Lab is a collective that I co-founded here in Atlantic Canada
two years ago. We are spread out across two provinces and focus on
improvised live film and audio performance. IRiSs stands for
"Integrated Ruptures in Sensory spaces". You can read more about us
and see samples of past performances on our website: http://www.irisslab.ca
Amanda Dawn Christie
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Master of Fine Arts
www.amandadawnchristie.ca
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506-871-2062
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 15:45:20 +0200
From: anja ross <email suppressed>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Film / Video Collectives?
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <email suppressed>
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*Hey Matt,
What is this? You need to tell more about your research!
A good day, Anja*
2010/7/12 <email suppressed>
> Hey,
>
> I'm doing a little research / survey on currently, or recently, active
> film/video collectives. Who wants to start the list?
>
> Matt
>
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 12:11:03 -0400
From: Sam Wells <email suppressed>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] 21st Century Limited
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <email suppressed>
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Has the 16mm projection at the Walter Reade always been as bad as last
night, I mean
have my standards gotten too high for a screen that large ? -
I don't think so, but that would mean either they ran those shows on
something other than'the (Elmo 2200 ?) used previously, or the lens needs
work, was replaced - or
something. True I was 3rd row, but I've sat pretty close to the screen.
I've seen other Brakhage 16mm films which looked fine but The God Of Day was
unwatchable, I left - there is NO point to puting your energy in teasing out
focus watching
a film nuanced (on so many levels) as this. I hope Marilyn et al get this
out on Blu-Ray next round.
At Sea, forget it. The projectionist could not maintain focus across the
screen (Hutton is tricky, different print stocks spliced [I once projected
Study of A River; realized the head titles were emulsion in but spliced to
the film itself emulsion out - ouch - altho I caught it right away]) So I
watched 50 minutes of Peter Hutton's film (which stretches where you can go
with 16mm in the first place) buzzing around various amounts of misfocus.
Obsevando el cielo looked pretty sharp, Pitcher didn't compared to other
Beavers' films;
Great Art of Knowing I don't know what to compare to (was very late and
missed half of it and all of Sarbande.
-Sam
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 12:12:34 -0400
From: Sam Wells <email suppressed>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] 21st Century Limited
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"I've seen other Brakhage 16mm films which looked fine" i.e. (many) at the
Walter Reade
-Sam
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 12:21:01 -0400
From: Roger Beebe <email suppressed>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] 21st Century Limited
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <email suppressed>
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Speaking of bad projection, I was at MoMA the other day and they have Ray Gun Virus on a looper on 16mm. I feel like I should know this, but is it meant to be screened in soft focus? In some ways, the softness of their projection (very soft) lessened the distraction of the scratches (which were considerable in number) and the dirt (which wasn't terrible yet), but I wondered if the softness compromised the effect in other ways. It's been years since I saw it projected theatrically, but I don't remember it being soft then. Does anyone know more about this? Should I have been brazen & just focused their projector? (I didn't dare.)
Tell me, o sages of Frameworks!
Roger
(momentarily) Brooklyn, NY
On Jul 12, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Sam Wells wrote:
> Has the 16mm projection at the Walter Reade always been as bad as last night, I mean
> have my standards gotten too high for a screen that large ? -
>
> I don't think so, but that would mean either they ran those shows on something other than'the (Elmo 2200 ?) used previously, or the lens needs work, was replaced - or
> something. True I was 3rd row, but I've sat pretty close to the screen.
>
> I've seen other Brakhage 16mm films which looked fine but The God Of Day was unwatchable, I left - there is NO point to puting your energy in teasing out focus watching
> a film nuanced (on so many levels) as this. I hope Marilyn et al get this out on Blu-Ray next round.
>
> At Sea, forget it. The projectionist could not maintain focus across the screen (Hutton is tricky, different print stocks spliced [I once projected Study of A River; realized the head titles were emulsion in but spliced to the film itself emulsion out - ouch - altho I caught it right away]) So I watched 50 minutes of Peter Hutton's film (which stretches where you can go with 16mm in the first place) buzzing around various amounts of misfocus.
>
> Obsevando el cielo looked pretty sharp, Pitcher didn't compared to other Beavers' films;
> Great Art of Knowing I don't know what to compare to (was very late and missed half of it and all of Sarbande.
>
> -Sam
>
>
> <ATT00001..txt>
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:30:11 +0000
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Subject: [Frameworks] request to change address for Frameworks list
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 09:44:30 -0700
From: 40 Frames <email suppressed>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] 21st Century Limited
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On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Sam Wells <email suppressed> wrote:
> Has the 16mm projection at the Walter Reade always been as bad as last
> night, I mean
> have my standards gotten too high for a screen that large ? -
>
I haven't seen the projection there for a few years (Views), but it looked
decent to me at the time.
They should get an Eastman 25 installed, in fact I'm surprised they haven't.
With the right lens and lamphouse (reflector) these can throw an image much
larger than you would expect from 16mm, and if I recall the screen at the
Walter Reade is very tall?
BTW, does anyone know what is happening with the two new theaters in the
works at Lincoln Center? Will either of these smaller theaters have 16mm
projection installed??
Alain
>
> I don't think so, but that would mean either they ran those shows on
> something other than'the (Elmo 2200 ?) used previously, or the lens needs
> work, was replaced - or
> something. True I was 3rd row, but I've sat pretty close to the screen.
>
> I've seen other Brakhage 16mm films which looked fine but The God Of Day
> was unwatchable, I left - there is NO point to puting your energy in teasing
> out focus watching
> a film nuanced (on so many levels) as this. I hope Marilyn et al get this
> out on Blu-Ray next round.
>
> At Sea, forget it. The projectionist could not maintain focus across the
> screen (Hutton is tricky, different print stocks spliced [I once projected
> Study of A River; realized the head titles were emulsion in but spliced to
> the film itself emulsion out - ouch - altho I caught it right away]) So I
> watched 50 minutes of Peter Hutton's film (which stretches where you can go
> with 16mm in the first place) buzzing around various amounts of misfocus.
>
> Obsevando el cielo looked pretty sharp, Pitcher didn't compared to other
> Beavers' films;
> Great Art of Knowing I don't know what to compare to (was very late and
> missed half of it and all of Sarbande.
>
> -Sam
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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