From: marilyn brakhage (email suppressed)
Date: Sun Jul 18 2010 - 20:42:04 PDT
The problem with using the example of Brakhage for this argument is
that he never considered his work "experimental" in the first place.
(There's an interview segment included on the new Brakhage DVD set in
which he discusses the problems with this terminology.) He believed
he was making "art," but that to be considered art by his definition
(and by that of many others) it would ultimately have to pass "the
test of time." It would not become an outdated "experiment," thus.
Marilyn Brakhage
On 18-Jul-10, at 5:24 PM, Jeff Kreines wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alex McCarron
> So the conventions of experimental film never become conventional?
>
> Exactly what I was trying to say.
>
> I guess the question becomes, for some, when in history does
> something swing from experimental to merely outre to conventional to
> cliche to Honda commercial?
>
> How does that apply to an artist's ouvre over time? If their works
> don't radically change, are they suddenly relegated to the category
> of cliche-makers just because time has blunted the boldness of their
> pioneering works? Or are they grandfathered/grandmothered --
> granted permanent outsider status?
>
> Obviously one size does not fit all.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alex McCarron
> So the conventions of experimental film never become conventional?
>
> I love Jonas Mekas but if you tried to do what he did today it
> wouldn't be called experimental film, it'd be called a Honda
> commercial.
>
> Alex
>
> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 7:17 PM, Matt Helme <email suppressed>
> wrote:
> How many film's did Brakhage make? Was he considered conventional in
> 2000?
> Matt
>
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