Re: [Frameworks] info on hand-processing colour film needed

From: Jonathan Capone (email suppressed)
Date: Tue Jul 20 2010 - 12:06:31 PDT


Hi Veronica,

  It's really easy to do E-6 processing for color reversal with a
tetenal kit. The tetenal kits combine the bleach and fixer, which
makes it bad for reticulation and toning, but it has less steps than
the one kodak offers.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/109282-REG/Tetenal_T102031_E_6_3_Bath_Kit_for.html
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/109284-REG/Tetenal_T102034_E_6_3_Bath_Kit_for.html

Here's a list of the temp/times I have been using:
First Developer:
°F 1st third 2nd third 3 third
70 26 27 28
72 24 25 26
74 21:30 22:30 23
76 19:30 20 21
78 18 18:30 19:30
80 16:30 17 18
82 15 15:30 16
84 13:30 14 14:30
86 12:30 13 13:30
88 11:30 12 12:30
90 10:30 11 11:15
92 9:30 10 10:15
94 8:30 8:45 9:15
96 7:45 8 8:15
98 7 7:15 7:30
100 6:30 6:45 7
102 5:45 6 6:15
104 5:15 5:30 5:45
106 4:45 5 5:15
108 4:30 4 4:45
110 4 4:15 4:15

Wash 3 min

Color Developer
°F
70 9
75 8:30
80 8
85 7:30
90 7
95 6:30
100 6
105 5:30
110 5

After Color Developer the following stages can be done in the light
Wash 3 min

Bleach/Fix
10 min minimum any temp between 70-100 degrees

Wash 4 min

Stabilizer 1 Min any temp between 70-100 degrees

Hope that helps,
Jonathan Capone

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Veronica Ibarra
<email suppressed> wrote:
> Hi!
> I hand-process my own B&W 16mm film and would like to do the same with
> colour, reversal or neg. I use a Lomo tank.
>
> Could anyone tell me how to do it? chemicals needed, times, temperatures,
> etc?
> Or maybe someone knows where I could get this information?
>
> Thank you
>
> Best
> Veronica
> www.veronicaibarra.com
> ________________________________
> De: Rory Brosius <email suppressed>
> Para: email suppressed
> Enviado: mar,20 julio, 2010 18:51
> Asunto: Re: [Frameworks] experimental documentary (thank you)
>
> Christopher,
> Thank you for the kind response.  I hope you are able to incorporate
> everything you hope to.
> Keep us updated!
> Cheers,
> Rory
> PS:  If you are looking to incorporate some interesting portraits,
> docudrama, and "self-reflexive" films (as Marilyn had said)...
> Grey Gardens: Albert & David Maysles
> Sherman's March: Ross McElwee
>
> War: Jake Mahaffy
> Chain: Jem Cohen
> and for fun...
> The King of Kong: A Fistful of Quarters: Seth Gordon
> ________________________________
> From: email suppressed
> To: email suppressed
> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:34:54 +0000
> Subject: [Frameworks] experimental documentary (thank you)
>
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> Thanks to everyone for so many excellent and thought provoking
> recommendations.  Some of them were already on my radar but many others had
> either slipped my mind or were completely unknown to me.
>
>
>
> Thanks in particular to Amanda, Dan, Robert, Dinorah, Jeanne, Ken, Matt,
> Mike, Jason, Carl, Sonali, David, Ted, Elizabeth, Mads, Greg, James, Shane,
> Jeff, Beverly, Manuele, Rory and Rob (whew!).
>
>
>
> Special thanks to Marilyn, Jason and Rory for prodding me to focus my
> thoughts a bit more as I begin to shape the syllabus for the course.
>
>
>
> In response to their comments a little context is probably in order:
>
>
>
> The class I will be teaching this fall is called Film Documentary.  Based on
> past experience with the student body I suspect that the vast majority of my
> students have an idea of documentary that does not go very far beyond Ken
> Burns and Michael Moore.  Its within this context that I decided that I
> would teach an "experimental documentary" course in order to challenge these
> sorts of preconceptions.  In any case when I posted my initial query to
> Frameworks I deliberately left the terminology undefined so as to cast as
> wide a net as possible in the hopes that I would get a range of responses
> (it seemed to have worked). I assumed correctly that many responses would
> point me in directions that I might not have anticipated.  At the same time
> I included the names of certain film and video makers in order to provide
> some sense of what I meant by "experimental."  The point was to provide some
> context without closing off potential avenues.
>
>
>
> Marilyn wondered about the purpose of the course.  One of the major areas of
> focus for this class will be, as Marilyn put it, on "self-reflexive
> documentaries that are honest, also, about their subjectivity.”  Rather than
> a history of such films I intend to design the course as an introduction to
> these kinds of films (and videos) with no attempt to be exhaustive or
> definitive.  In this spirit, the discussions around terminology
> (“experimental” and “documentary”) will be integrated into the course with
> as little doctrinaire fanfare as possible.
>
>
>
> Jason, I wholeheartedly agree that there are no clear boundaries between
> Narrative, Documentary and Experimental film.  I intend to design the course
> in such way that the content and spirit of the course convey this lack of
> definitive boundaries.
>
>
>
> Rory, Documentary Film is a theory course however I have recently begun to
> fold optional production assignments into my theory courses and I intend to
> do the same with my “experimental” version of the this class.  How exactly I
> will do this has yet to be determined.  I am not sure how much experience
> with hands on processes.  Certainly the discussion around terminology and
> processes will have to be placed within an historical context.
>
>
>
> Again, thanks to all the very helpful feedback.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> CH
>
>
>
>
>
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