From: Bernard Roddy (email suppressed)
Date: Thu Jul 29 2010 - 20:40:02 PDT
"This is what distinguishes the artist from laymen (those susceptible to art):
the latter reach the high point of their susceptibility when they receive; the
former when they give - [. . .] The perspectives of these two states are
opposite: to demand of the artist that he should practice the perspective of the
audience (of the critic-) means to demand that he should impoverish himself and
his creative power - "
Nietzshe, entry 811 of Book III, Sect. IV, of "The Will to Power as Art."
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From: Patricia R. Zimmermann <email suppressed>
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <email suppressed>
Sent: Thu, July 29, 2010 2:15:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Open letter to Jeff Kreines
Compare to Wiseman's HIGH SCHOOL, and it's easy to make the claim of the
significance for SEVENTEEN in US film history.
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>Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:12:22 -0400
>From: email suppressed (on behalf of Adam Levine
><email suppressed>)
>Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Open letter to Jeff Kreines
>To: Experimental Film Discussion List <email suppressed>
>
> Cosigned. Seeing Seventeen at the PFA was a seminal
> experience for me. It's definitely up there with any
> American film ever made, documentary or otherwise.
>
> On Jul 29, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Rick Prelinger
> <email suppressed> wrote:
>
> Seventeen, one of the greatest unavailable US
> films.
>
> Rick Prelinger
> email suppressed
> Prelinger Library & Archives
> San Francisco
> On Jul 29, 2010, at 11:37,
> <email suppressed> wrote:
>
> Sorry Frameworkers,
> Didn't mean to send this as part of the
> Kodachrome discussion.
>
> Open Letter to Jeff Kreines:
> Dear Jeff,
> As you know, I've been trying to find out
> how to access your (and Joel DeMott's) films
> for some months now--without success. And you
> also know of my interest in speaking with you
> about your experiences as a student in the MIT
> film program years ago.
> You are a regular and valuable contributor
> to FRAMEWORKS, and I'm sure many FRAMEWORKERS
> would be interested in knowing whether your
> films are available, and if so how (and if
> not, why not). And my guess is that many of us
> would be interested in hearing about your
> experiences at MIT: would you be willing to
> respond to questions about this on FRAMEWORKS?
> All the Best,
> Scott
> Scott MacDonald
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Early Kodachrome
> From: Jeff Kreines
> <email suppressed>
> Date: Wed, July 28, 2010 3:38 pm
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List
> <email suppressed>
>
> A little more on that film (with a few
> inaccuracies):
> http://1000words.kodak.com/post/?ID=2982503
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