Re: [Frameworks] First time experiment, need words from the wise

From: mallary abel (email suppressed)
Date: Tue Sep 21 2010 - 18:57:24 PDT


Wonderful, thanks Jodie, Rick and ZZZ...
Jodie, the tape transfer intrigues me... we'll see if it is a success over
here. I'd like to try newspaper.
Z, did the hair dryer give you the cracks? I like it, esp those pinks!
That's the density I'd like to achieve. All of that is with rapidograph?

Thank you kindly!

Mallary
Cut + Run Tour

On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Zachary Iannazzi <email suppressed>wrote:

> Mallary,
>
> I really like the rapidograph inks,
> You can buy just the cartridges
> (they look like this- http://content.etilize.com/Large/1010037446.jpg)
>
> I just got a box a few weeks ago from here-
> http://www.westnc.com/rotring.html
>
> scroll down,
> you want Part#: 3080F.xxx*
> which is,
> "3/4 OZ Universal Ink, Available in Black, White & 8 transparent colors
> (Carmine
> Red, Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Violet, Brown). Pigmented. Media:
> Drafting Film, Absorbent Paper. Drying time: Fast "
>
> and you can see what they look like over here,
> http://vimeo.com/13616107
>
> don't forget the hair dryer!
>
> zzz
>
>
>
> Quoting Jodie Mack <email suppressed>:
>
> >
> > Mallary,
> >
> >
> >
> > Doc Marten dyes produce vivid, saturated colors, and so do
> > the inks from the felt/plastic cylinders inside permanent markers. (Rip
> > markers
> > open with your teeth and then squeeze away.)
> >
> >
> >
> > With the right copier, you can Xerox film through the side
> > feeder. Use 11x17 paper, cut strips of film, tape them down, and side
> feed
> > away. The copier will jam at times, but it is really fun. Clear leader
> will
> > also take ink from a laser printer. (Inkjet will smear and wash away,
> which,
> > of
> > course, is a worthwhile thing).
> >
> >
> >
> > Another option: tape/ink transfer. Apply tape to printed
> > paper (again, no inkjet). Submerge the paper in water. Wait a few
> minutes.
> > Separate the pieces of tape. Rub off the paper pulp with your fingers
> (you
> > might have to submerge it a few more times to get it nice and clean).
> Apply
> > the
> > wet tape to film, and leave it to dry. (1/2 inch tape fits 16mm perfectly
> > without covering the left sprockets!). This process makes for thick film.
> > But,
> > as long as you lay it flat to dry, it works pretty well.
> >
> >
> >
> > Send all of your stuff to Seb at Niagara Custom Lab. He’ll
> > strike you an interneg from which you can make the rest of your positive
> > prints. He’s completely handmade-friendly and will touch things no other
> lab
> > will. His prices are also righteously reasonable!
> > http://www.niagaracustomlab.com/
> >
> >
> >
> > Also, if you haven’t already, it seems like
> > you’re ready to score a copy of “Recipes for Disaster—a Handcrafted Film
> > Cookbooklet,” a valuable jewel of a document put out by the legendary
> Helen
> > Hill a few years back. This was online at some point, but now I can’t
> find
> > it.
> > I have copies if you want.
> >
> > JM
> > NEW Hampshire
> >
> > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:37:50 -0700
> > From: email suppressed
> > To: email suppressed
> > Subject: [Frameworks] First time experiment, need words from the wise
> >
> > Hi Frameworkers,
> > I've got some concerns/queries about a current project. For my first hand
> > painted film, I'm using glass paint on clear estar 16mm and also I'm
> > experimenting with flower petals, leaves, things of that nature. The
> > particles I'm using are thin and light, so I haven't had any problems
> (yet)
> > with bits chipping off or getting jammed in the projector. I want to use
> > layers with great textures.
> >
> > I wondered if anyone had any other recommendation for paint, or ink, or
> > stains. The glass paint I'm using is doing an OK job, but it dries really
> > thin, so I have to keep layering it. Obviously I don't want to layer it
> too
> > much, but I want the colors to be bold, thick and loud. I'd like to
> refrain
> > from using acrylic or oils.
> >
> > Then I wondered also, much like painters can use gesso to transfer an
> image
> > (newspapers/xerox copies), is there anything that can be done similarly?
> > Entirely camera-less and without an optical printer?
> >
> > Lastly my biggest concern is the workprint/telecine. Who will even do a
> > workprint on such a risky film? Someone told me they "wouldn't touch it
> with
> > a ten foot pole." But these films are made often, right? So someone has
> to do
> > it? Or is to assume this naive?
> >
> > Any help on any of these questions would be sincerely appreciated...
> > Thank you.
> > Mallary Cut + Run Tour
> >
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