From: Caryn Cline (email suppressed)
Date: Wed Sep 22 2010 - 07:45:32 PDT
Hi Mallary,
Helen Hill's wonderful and indispensable *Recipes for Disaster* is also
available as a link on the Wikipedia entry about
Helen<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Hill>.
I have made several films using plants and flowers. I stick the plants to
clear emulsion leader (which I prefer for its golden color and its
self-sticky properties) using glue (archival, rice) and secure the plants
with 12mm clear tape (which as Jodie points out works perfectly). I, too,
like layersand textures, and I've been working with black emulsion leader as
well, gluing and taping plants onto the base side and removing some of the
emulsion on the other side in some way--bleaching or scratching or smudging
or rubbing. I've also painted around plants pasted to clear leader, using
black india ink. That gives me an interesting crackle pattern that works
nicely especially with aging or dried plants. If you want to work with
"fresh" plants, spray them with water before you paste them onto film, and
keep the frames in the refrigerator until you are ready to project or
rephotograph them. I mostly optical print myself (very carefully) because I
want to slow the frames down and really look at them. Sometimes I go for
layering through bipacking or double exposing, with "live action" footage.
BTW, I don't know where you are, but I'm teaching workshops on handmade
frames with plants and flowers. You can see the results of one workshop
(taught in Olympia, WA) on
YouTube<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATuixFFoGjY>.
If you are interested in seeing my work, I'll be happy to send you a link if
you e-mail me off list.
I wish you the best of luck with your projects.
Sincerely,
Caryn Cline
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:57 PM, mallary abel <email suppressed> wrote:
> Wonderful, thanks Jodie, Rick and ZZZ...
> Jodie, the tape transfer intrigues me... we'll see if it is a success over
> here. I'd like to try newspaper.
> Z, did the hair dryer give you the cracks? I like it, esp those pinks!
> That's the density I'd like to achieve. All of that is with rapidograph?
>
> Thank you kindly!
>
> Mallary
> Cut + Run Tour
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Zachary Iannazzi <email suppressed>wrote:
>
>> Mallary,
>>
>> I really like the rapidograph inks,
>> You can buy just the cartridges
>> (they look like this- http://content.etilize.com/Large/1010037446.jpg)
>>
>> I just got a box a few weeks ago from here-
>> http://www.westnc.com/rotring.html
>>
>> scroll down,
>> you want Part#: 3080F.xxx*
>> which is,
>> "3/4 OZ Universal Ink, Available in Black, White & 8 transparent colors
>> (Carmine
>> Red, Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Violet, Brown). Pigmented. Media:
>> Drafting Film, Absorbent Paper. Drying time: Fast "
>>
>> and you can see what they look like over here,
>> http://vimeo.com/13616107
>>
>> don't forget the hair dryer!
>>
>> zzz
>>
>>
>>
>> Quoting Jodie Mack <email suppressed>:
>>
>> >
>> > Mallary,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Doc Marten dyes produce vivid, saturated colors, and so do
>> > the inks from the felt/plastic cylinders inside permanent markers. (Rip
>> > markers
>> > open with your teeth and then squeeze away.)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > With the right copier, you can Xerox film through the side
>> > feeder. Use 11x17 paper, cut strips of film, tape them down, and side
>> feed
>> > away. The copier will jam at times, but it is really fun. Clear leader
>> will
>> > also take ink from a laser printer. (Inkjet will smear and wash away,
>> which,
>> > of
>> > course, is a worthwhile thing).
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Another option: tape/ink transfer. Apply tape to printed
>> > paper (again, no inkjet). Submerge the paper in water. Wait a few
>> minutes.
>> > Separate the pieces of tape. Rub off the paper pulp with your fingers
>> (you
>> > might have to submerge it a few more times to get it nice and clean).
>> Apply
>> > the
>> > wet tape to film, and leave it to dry. (1/2 inch tape fits 16mm
>> perfectly
>> > without covering the left sprockets!). This process makes for thick
>> film.
>> > But,
>> > as long as you lay it flat to dry, it works pretty well.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Send all of your stuff to Seb at Niagara Custom Lab. He’ll
>> > strike you an interneg from which you can make the rest of your positive
>> > prints. He’s completely handmade-friendly and will touch things no other
>> lab
>> > will. His prices are also righteously reasonable!
>> > http://www.niagaracustomlab.com/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Also, if you haven’t already, it seems like
>> > you’re ready to score a copy of “Recipes for Disaster—a Handcrafted Film
>> > Cookbooklet,” a valuable jewel of a document put out by the legendary
>> Helen
>> > Hill a few years back. This was online at some point, but now I can’t
>> find
>> > it.
>> > I have copies if you want.
>> >
>> > JM
>> > NEW Hampshire
>> >
>> > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:37:50 -0700
>> > From: email suppressed
>> > To: email suppressed
>> > Subject: [Frameworks] First time experiment, need words from the wise
>> >
>> > Hi Frameworkers,
>> > I've got some concerns/queries about a current project. For my first
>> hand
>> > painted film, I'm using glass paint on clear estar 16mm and also I'm
>> > experimenting with flower petals, leaves, things of that nature. The
>> > particles I'm using are thin and light, so I haven't had any problems
>> (yet)
>> > with bits chipping off or getting jammed in the projector. I want to use
>> > layers with great textures.
>> >
>> > I wondered if anyone had any other recommendation for paint, or ink, or
>> > stains. The glass paint I'm using is doing an OK job, but it dries
>> really
>> > thin, so I have to keep layering it. Obviously I don't want to layer it
>> too
>> > much, but I want the colors to be bold, thick and loud. I'd like to
>> refrain
>> > from using acrylic or oils.
>> >
>> > Then I wondered also, much like painters can use gesso to transfer an
>> image
>> > (newspapers/xerox copies), is there anything that can be done similarly?
>> > Entirely camera-less and without an optical printer?
>> >
>> > Lastly my biggest concern is the workprint/telecine. Who will even do a
>> > workprint on such a risky film? Someone told me they "wouldn't touch it
>> with
>> > a ten foot pole." But these films are made often, right? So someone has
>> to do
>> > it? Or is to assume this naive?
>> >
>> > Any help on any of these questions would be sincerely appreciated...
>> > Thank you.
>> > Mallary Cut + Run Tour
>> >
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