Re: [Frameworks] B&W innerneg

From: andrew lennox (email suppressed)
Date: Tue Nov 16 2010 - 22:30:48 PST


hi lyra,

super 8 plus x -> 7366 (this is a master positive)
7366->7234 or 3234
3/7234 -> 3302

talk to sebastjan @ niagara custom lab. he's got the master pos and interneg.
 he will run tests for you and you can use what is specific to your job rather
than a full 1000' can (im not sure the length of the project). this is the best
way to keep down contrast and grain. ive used plus x as an interneg before and
seen double-x on other people's work. it depends if you want that look but it
sounds like you want as close a reproduction as possible. master pos/interneg
is the traditional way. for sure i would recommend against making your release
prints on 3383 from the master bw interneg. also, plus-x neg is discontinued so
it's either interneg or double-x, unless you have/find plus-x. anyway, good
luck, i really suggest talking to sebastjan though if you have the money. he
will give you the best price you can find. he's great about doing tests and
working with you.

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From: Lyra Hill <email suppressed>
To: Frameworks <email suppressed>
Sent: Tue, November 16, 2010 4:29:21 PM
Subject: [Frameworks] B&W innerneg

Hi everybody,

I have a pretty simple question about the value of B&W innerneg (I'm thinking
specifically about Kodak 3234, because you can buy 1000ft of it) as opposed to
B&W negative stock in regards to tone-rendering capacity. I am in a situation in
which it is necessary for me to make several intermediate steps in arriving at
my goal, and I would like the finished film strip to be as rich as my current
negative. Here's what I'm doing:

I have some Super8 Plus-X that I have developed as negative. I plan on printing
that on a JK, editing my footage in this process. I then will have to make an
intermediate negative of this positive print, in order to have a master negative
from which to pull multiple married prints.

As stated before, it is important to me to retain as much tonality as possible
through these steps. I would also prefer to stick to B&W stock; while I may end
up printing to 3383 for the married prints, I'm not keen on color testing for
each step in order to maintain desaturation.

I worked it out and the 3234 innerneg that Kodak offers is about the same price
as Double-X. Purchasing a small amount of Double-X is more manageable right now
than figuring out how to convince my friends to go in on 1000 ft of innerneg. If
I use Double-X as an intermediate negative, will I maintain the same richness? I
also have 800ft of negative Plus-X that I've been hoarding. When it comes to
Double-X vs. Plus-X, which stock would be better for this use?

Thank you,
Lyra Hill


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