From: James Lindner (email suppressed)
Date: Sat Jun 10 2006 - 13:42:23 PDT
Diazo can be VERY nasty to work with and it also fades over time. Make sure
you know what you are doing. Make sure there is plenty of ventilation,
protective eyeware and clothing - read msds below. Ammonia is not something
you mess around with without training and making sure your equipment is in
good shape. I suspect that any savings on the stock will more then be offset
with issues relating to the Ammonia and safety. Be careful - read up
first../
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/MHMI/mmg126.html
http://www.chem.tamu.edu/class/majors/msdsfiles/msdsammonia.htm
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~fyiglover/articles/diazo_duplication.html
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From: Experimental Film Discussion List [mailto:email suppressed]
On Behalf Of Adrian Tagmenveca
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 3:02 PM
To: email suppressed
Subject: Re: microfilm printer - a notion
Diazo microfilm (Estar Base) is a fast-speed
non-silver print film suitable for generating
direct-duplicating copies in fiche or roll form
from silver or reprintable diazo films. It can be
processed in the usual commercially available
diazo processors, using either aqueous or
anhydrous ammonia vapor at various
temperatures and pressures.
Diazo microfilm (Estar Base) is a fast-speed
non-silver print film suitable for generating
direct-duplicating copies in fiche or roll form
from silver or reprintable diazo films. It can be
processed in the usual commercially available
diazo processors, using either aqueous or
anhydrous ammonia vapor at various
temperatures and pressures.
From Kodak: Diazo microfilm (Estar Base) is a fast-speed non-silver print
film suitable for generating direct-duplicating copies in fiche or roll form
from silver or reprintable diazo films. It can be processed in the usual
commercially available diazo processors, using either aqueous oranhydrous
ammonia vapor at various temperatures and pressures.
... and the stuff doesn't have to be kept light tight - and watching the
machine run it takes about 25secs from the time the copy and print meet
under the UV light till you see an image... an ugly purple image - but an
image.
And the cheap price I was quoted was from a microfilming outfit that
probably has some kind of discount.
Freya <email suppressed> wrote:
Yes but what is it?!!!
Is it a high contrast film for microfilming? I could
see how that would work for Tony if it's possible to
get some with sprockets.
Actually you could get some without sprockets and make
some work and then contact print it in a microfilm
printer onto print film with sprockets for projection.
love
Freya
--- Tony Conrad wrote:
> "Diazo film is $16 for 1000 ft"
> Where? I want some.
>
> ----------t0ny
>
>
> Quoting Adrian Tagmenveca :
>
> > I'm sending this to the list instead of directly -
> just for the slim
> > chance someone has an opinion on something so
> silly.
> >
> > Freya!
> >
> > I had a bright idea during a boring meeting
> today and I thought I'd
> > share it... Using the microfilm duplicating
> machine, one could set up
> > two short loops of identical or complimentary film
> in the duplicating
> > machine and make a Diazo copy of the two loops
> falling in and out of
> > phase with one another (due to the fact that the
> microfilm is moved
> > through the machine with tension and not
> sprockets). Then one could
> > run that Diazo copy through a telecine (also using
> tension -
> > eliminating the sprocket problem) and have a video
> piece super
> > cheaply (assuming one has access to a Diazo copier
> and a telecine for
> > cheap or free). Diazo film is $16 for 1000 ft -
> so we're talking
> > about making this work for a song. It's also very
> ugly stuff - so
> > I'll have to figure out a way to incorporate that
> fact. I'll keep
> > you informed if I'm dumb enough to try this.
> >
> > Best,
> > Adrian.
> >
> >
> > Freya <> wrote:
> > I found one in the rubbish a while back and
> someone in
> > the list talked me into grabbing it and I'm really
> > glad that they did as the idea of one day making
> > prints on it is one of the things that keeps me
> going!
> > :)
> >
> > Have you come up with a solution to the lack of
> > sprockets yet? Or does your printer work with
> micro
> > film with sprockets? I think there was such stuff
> > made, but of course I could be wrong!
> >
> > love
> >
> > Freya
> >
> >
> > Richlands, VA.
> >
> >
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