From: owen (email suppressed)
Date: Sun Jan 14 2007 - 11:05:27 PST
Like I said.
On Jan 14, 2007, at 1:17 PM, saul ostrow wrote:
> In a situation like this saying one hates the government is like a
> teenager they hate your parents. Yet government is not our parent,
> it is not responsible for or to each individual's need, gov't in
> our society is that thing we have hired to manage our corporation
> in the name of its share holders - as share holders we have failed
> collectively to provide the necessary guidelines - like most
> corporations we have let the majority stockholders (those who have
> been able to collect the proxies of others) to run things - we then
> complain as Freya has about them when a divided is not paid
> because the value of our stock or profits have fallen.
> Consequently - I agree with Owen though with a slight revision - to
> say we hate the gov't is to say we hate ourselves for putting our
> trust in the idea that someone else is responsible for our well
> being. Nothing comes from self-hatred other than accusation and
> dependency.
> On Jan 14, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Freya wrote:
>
>> --- owen <email suppressed> wrote:
>>
>>> Anger yes. Hate no. Terrible that Helen Hill was
>>> senslesly murdered
>>> and her family and community devastated. Terrible
>>> that the government
>>> is incompetent and insensitive.
>>> Our government represents us. And I think we are
>>> accurately
>>> represented. If you hate the government , you hate
>>> the people too. Hate.
>>
>> There is a difference between a representation of
>> something and an actual thing as we should all be very
>> aware as experimental filmmakers.
>>
>> I do not in any way believe that the average united
>> states citizen cares nothing for other people.
>>
>> I do not believe that the united states government
>> acurately represents the people of New Orleans in the
>> action they took by ignoring them.
>>
>> I could go on but basically I don't believe that the
>> US government accurately represents all american
>> people even if it were felt that it represented a
>> majority but like most governments it appears to
>> represent a political elite at the top of its society.
>>
>> The united states government is different to it's
>> people no matter how desperately it might like to
>> declare otherwise.
>>
>>> Ironic, declarations of hate regarding people and
>>> governments made in
>>> Helen Hill's honor.
>>
>> The comment I made was not in Helen Hills honour. It
>> could in no way be so as I have not met or been in
>> contact with her. It reffered to my own personal
>> feelings to do with the way that the united states
>> government has acted in regard to the disaster in New
>> Orleans.
>>
>> People are going to have strong emotions in the
>> matter. Both good and bad.
>>
>> ...and yes I would rather not feel the way I do it
>> isn't good, but I will deal with it and carry on doing
>> positive things.
>>
>> love
>>
>> Freya
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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