From: owen (email suppressed)
Date: Wed Jan 24 2007 - 17:46:51 PST
On Jan 24, 2007, at 7:51 PM, Brook Hinton wrote:
> Alain and Joost, I didn't mean to imply anything of the sort. I was
> addressing the relationship of the original charter to the current
> conditions of a-g cinema, and indicating my feeling, in response to
> Alain's citing of the original charter, that discussion of a-g
> cinema at this point cannot really thrive, beyond discussion of
> film-specific aspects of particular works, in the environment that
> charter describes, however distant it might be from what occurs
> here. I never said anything about anyone being censored or shut
> down. The first sentence, and the description of a video-forbidden
> forum, were hypotheticals, though I think they are relevant to the
> current discussion, and if that wasn't clear I apologize.
>
> All of this in the context of the ongoing multithreaded discussion
> regarding the current state of the forum.
>
> I will state, though, that I have always found it problematic to
> discuss non-sprocketed work here, as it usually ends up with this
> format-issue frame around it before any other substantive
> discussion takes place. As for other lists for discussion of a-g
> cinema without the privileging of a particular format, I've looked
> for years and have yet to find one.
>
> Brook
>
>
> On 1/24/07, Joost Rekveld <email suppressed> wrote:
> i don't remember ever seeing a discussion on frameworks being
> 'censored' because it was too much about video. I don't actually
> remember any discussion here being 'censored', or is my memory too
> selective ?
>
> friendly,
>
> Joost.
>
>
> On Jan 24, 2007, at 9:28 , Brook Hinton wrote:
>
> > At this late stage, if video is not treated as just another
> > cinematic tool on this list, then this list is about a format (or
> > rather group of formats), not about an approach to making cinema.
> > That will chase away many who might actually have something to
> > contribute to discussions on, say, 16mm film preservation or hand-
> > processing techniques. While such areas are important and will of
> > course remain a crucial part of Frameworks regardless, a format
> > limited discussion of avant-garde cinema that excludes video is by
> > definition, in 2007, a discussion that censors half of its subject,
> > destroying its relevance and worthiness.
>
>
>
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