Re: individualism in films

From: Cari Machet (email suppressed)
Date: Sun Feb 11 2007 - 13:33:01 PST


"twelve monkey's"
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"le jette"

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On 2/11/07, Ken Bawcom <email suppressed> wrote:
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> I'm a film noir fan, and of course, individualism is what film noir is
> all about. For a modern film, "Memento" springs to mind. Classics, like
> "Out of the Past," and "D.O.A." are well known examples. Two underrated
> and lesser know favorites of mine are both film noir westerns, starring
> Robert Mitchum. They are "Pursued," and "Blood on the Moon." For modern
> sci fi, I can't think of better examples than "Twelve Monkeys," and
> "Blade Runner." I could go on and on, but you get the idea.
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> Ken B.
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> Quoting gyoungblood <email suppressed>:
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> > Thanks Jack. That's a very helpful list. You couldn't do better even
> > if I went into greater detail of what I'm looking for. If anyone can
> > think of other titles from the last decade, or classic beloved titles
> > from any era, please send them on.
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> > The thesis underlying this search is hardly original: namely, that
> > individualism works against the exercise of collective political will
> > and is, therefore, essential for social control in so-called
> > democracies. My contibution is to suggest that, given the current
> > historically unprecedented need for global collective action,
> > individualist socialization amounts to a crime against humanity. I
> > have no time to discuss this any further on Frameworks. I just want
> > help in assembling a list of those movies so that I can consign them,
> > and would-be makers of similar narratives, to imperialist hell.
> > Thanks again...
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jack Sargeant
> > To: email suppressed
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: [FRAMEWORKS] individualism in films
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> > I think perhaps some more thorough / in-depth details of what you
> > need may help, but, in terms of what I think you want (all recent
> > titles):
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> > Children of Men - one pregnant girl and an old lefty fight to save
> > humanity from dystopic end
> > V For Vendetta - one man starts a revolution against fascist
> > government thanks to inspiring pranks, interestingly the
> > revolutionaries all adopt his identity which may not help your thesis.
> > Borat - in the film Borat makes his country 'modern' having learned
> > from his trip to USA
> > The Queen - Blair saves royal family and Britain
> > The Departed - one man alone against organized crime
> > Shortbus - one nightclub and one woman's search for an orgasm
> > suggest that there is hope for the wider tragedies of modern world
> > Marie Antoinette - one woman takes on the weight of two nations and
> > parties then discovers responsibility at the end
> > Manderlay - one woman takes on the weight of history and slavery
> > Happy Feet - one penguin faces the ocean and international fishing
> > industries to save fish for penguins, interestingly he teaches the
> > other penguins the importance of collective action so this my not fit
> > entirely, but for 99% of the film he is the loner.
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> > God knows what this list says about my recent viewing habits, I
> > promise I also attend all the art house and avant garde screenings as
> > well!
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> > am I the first person to write about Happy Feet and Borat on
> Frameworks?
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> > On 7 Feb 2007, at 06:01, gyoungblood wrote:
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> > Frameworkers,
> > I posted this request during the Christmas holiday and got only
> > one response. So, thinking that was not the best time to ask, I'm
> > doing it again now. I'm trying to assemble a list of feature films in
> > which collective problems are presented and resolved on the personal,
> > individual level. Of course that's 99.9% of all Hollywood films
> > (Frank Capra, "Casablanca," "The Insider" are examples). I'm looking
> > for recent titles, the more admired the better. Your input will be
> > greatly appreciated, and will contribute to my documentary project on
> > the role of industrial cinema in socialization and social control.
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> >
> > Gene Youngblood
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