From: Ball Steven (email suppressed)
Date: Sat Feb 09 2008 - 11:15:26 PST
Adam,
Scratch Video is a term coined (I think) by George Barber
specifically to refer to a practice like his, the Duvet Bros and
Gorilla Tapes (among others) in the early eighties, which
appropriated images from TV and recontextualised them, often as
political commentary or satire. This was the early days of the
domestic VCR in the UK and the tapes were often made using crude
crash editing between two VHS machines, sometimes, but not
exclusively, creating what you refer to as 'video music'. 'Scratch'
was a deliberate allusion to the scratching and musical appropriation
by Grandmasters Flash, Melle Mel, et al, which back then was quite a
novelty. Akiko Hada would have been aware of scratch but not
considered to be part of the scene, Ohi Ho Bang being made a few
years after the heyday of Scratch proper, not necessarily typical of
her work and a collaboration with German post-punk musician Holger
Hiller.
So in short Scratch Video is not Video Music, I think the latter is a
genre that you've just invented!
Steven
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On 9 Feb 2008, at 16:55, Adam Marchand wrote:
> Steven,
>
> Thank you. I'd forgotten about Marclay and had never seen the Ohi Ho
> Bang Bang. They were exactly what I meant (more-so the Ohi Ho Bang
> Bang) when I meant video music. Is it called Scratch video properly?
> On Feb 8, 2008 7:20 AM, Steven Ball <email suppressed> wrote:
>> Adam,
>>
>> My video The Defenestrascope sort of does what you describe.
>> There's a
>> QuickTime up here:
>> http://www.steven-ball.co.uk/dvnotes.html#defens
>>
>> Of course there's a lot that follows similar kinds of processes: a
>> lot of
>> Bruce Conner's work, scratch video from the early eighties by the
>> likes of
>> The Duvet Brothers (their Blue Monday features the New Order track
>> see
>> http://www.duvetbrothers.com/), George Barber
>> (http://www.luxonline.org.uk/artists/george_barber/index.html) and
>> Gorilla
>> Tapes (http://www.tate.org.uk/britain/artistsfilm/programme3/
>> #chief), etc.
>>
>> Perhaps you know Akiko Hada and Holger Hillers' Ohi Ho Bang Bang:
>> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cKkyMLe34hU
>>
>> or more recently Christian Marclay's Video Quartet:
>> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9VmXoeZir7A
>>
>> Steven Ball
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 8, 2008 1:06 AM, Adam Marchand <email suppressed>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Cari
>>>
>>> Video music is the process by which a beat or melody is established
>>> through cuts in video that is inextricably linked to the audio
>>> track.
>>> Sort of like the Musique Concrete from (I think) the 20's in France,
>>> but where the image is part of the tape and viewed with the sound.
>>> Sort of like seeing what makes the samples in a DJs cut.
>>>
>>> It's not a catchy big thing, but last year or so there was a hit
>>> video
>>> on Youtube where a one Lasse H– made a song out of video cuts of
>>> himself playing single drums of a kit and thus, through cutting
>>> created a beat. He is a youtube hot ticket, but the process and art
>>> have been around since, I believe the nineties. I just didn't
>>> remember any of the names.
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 4, 2008 11:14 PM, Cari Machet <email suppressed> wrote:
>>>> steven reich
>>>> http://www.stevereich.com/
>>>> wife is a filmmaker - beryl korot
>>>> http://www.stevereich.com/
>>>>
>>>> but this was done looong ago
>>>>
>>>> but what do you mean by "video music artist"
>>>> there a million VJ's
>>>> and a million filmmakers that do amazing music videos so
>>>> could you clarify?
>>>>
>>>> c
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 4, 2008 10:35 PM, Adam Hart <email suppressed> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm pretty sure that was Doug Aitken.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 4, 2008 8:07 PM, Adam Marchand <email suppressed>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> leads toward video music artists. I am aware of very few. One
>>>>>> installation in particular that I am interested in, caught
>>>>>> wind of
>>>>>> recently, is a multi channel piece involving Andre 3000 and
>>>>>> spanning
>>>>>> continents. Something about synchronous music. It was
>>>>>> apparently
>>>>>> shown at P.S.1 a couple of years ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any other links would be helpful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>
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