From: Cari Machet (email suppressed)
Date: Sat Feb 09 2008 - 14:46:28 PST
On Feb 9, 2008 2:15 PM, Ball Steven <email suppressed> wrote:
> Adam,
> Scratch Video is a term coined (I think) by George Barber specifically to
> refer to a practice like his, the Duvet Bros and Gorilla Tapes (among
> others) in the early eighties, which appropriated images from TV and
> recontextualised them, often as political commentary or satire. This was
> the early days of the domestic VCR in the UK and the tapes were often made
> using crude crash editing between two VHS machines, sometimes, but not
> exclusively, creating what you refer to as 'video music'. 'Scratch' was a
> deliberate allusion to the scratching and musical appropriation by
> Grandmasters Flash, Melle Mel, et al, which back then was quite a novelty.
> Akiko Hada would have been aware of scratch but not considered to be part
> of the scene, Ohi Ho Bang being made a few years after the heyday of Scratch
> proper, not necessarily typical of her work and a collaboration with German
> post-punk musician Holger Hiller.
>
> So in short Scratch Video is not Video Music, I think the latter is a
> genre that you've just invented!
>
or at least named
c
>
> Steven
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> On 9 Feb 2008, at 16:55, Adam Marchand wrote:
>
> Steven,
>
> Thank you. I'd forgotten about Marclay and had never seen the Ohi Ho
> Bang Bang. They were exactly what I meant (more-so the Ohi Ho Bang
> Bang) when I meant video music. Is it called Scratch video properly?
> On Feb 8, 2008 7:20 AM, Steven Ball <email suppressed> wrote:
>
> Adam,
>
> My video The Defenestrascope sort of does what you describe. There's a
> QuickTime up here:
> http://www.steven-ball.co.uk/dvnotes.html#defens
>
> Of course there's a lot that follows similar kinds of processes: a lot of
> Bruce Conner's work, scratch video from the early eighties by the likes of
> The Duvet Brothers (their Blue Monday features the New Order track see
> http://www.duvetbrothers.com/), George Barber
> (http://www.luxonline.org.uk/artists/george_barber/index.html) and Gorilla
> Tapes (http://www.tate.org.uk/britain/artistsfilm/programme3/#chief), etc.
>
> Perhaps you know Akiko Hada and Holger Hillers' Ohi Ho Bang Bang:
> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cKkyMLe34hU
>
> or more recently Christian Marclay's Video Quartet:
> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9VmXoeZir7A
>
> Steven Ball
>
>
>
> On Feb 8, 2008 1:06 AM, Adam Marchand <email suppressed> wrote:
>
> Cari
>
> Video music is the process by which a beat or melody is established
> through cuts in video that is inextricably linked to the audio track.
> Sort of like the Musique Concrete from (I think) the 20's in France,
> but where the image is part of the tape and viewed with the sound.
> Sort of like seeing what makes the samples in a DJs cut.
>
> It's not a catchy big thing, but last year or so there was a hit video
> on Youtube where a one Lasse H– made a song out of video cuts of
> himself playing single drums of a kit and thus, through cutting
> created a beat. He is a youtube hot ticket, but the process and art
> have been around since, I believe the nineties. I just didn't
> remember any of the names.
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 4, 2008 11:14 PM, Cari Machet <email suppressed> wrote:
>
> steven reich
> http://www.stevereich.com/
> wife is a filmmaker - beryl korot
> http://www.stevereich.com/
>
> but this was done looong ago
>
> but what do you mean by "video music artist"
> there a million VJ's
> and a million filmmakers that do amazing music videos so
> could you clarify?
>
> c
>
>
>
> On Feb 4, 2008 10:35 PM, Adam Hart <email suppressed> wrote:
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> I'm pretty sure that was Doug Aitken.
>
>
>
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> On Feb 4, 2008 8:07 PM, Adam Marchand <email suppressed> wrote:
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> leads toward video music artists. I am aware of very few. One
> installation in particular that I am interested in, caught wind of
> recently, is a multi channel piece involving Andre 3000 and spanning
> continents. Something about synchronous music. It was apparently
> shown at P.S.1 a couple of years ago.
>
> Any other links would be helpful.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adam
>
>
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