From: Adam Marchand (email suppressed)
Date: Sat Feb 09 2008 - 15:20:25 PST
I'll have to step back from that one. I can't take that credit on my
shoulders. The genre title "video music" was coined to me by an
artist named Tony Flackett (a.k.a. DJ Flack). It was the only term
that I had to run with. I like the allusion that resides in "Scratch
Video" because it's immediately relevant and descriptive, but I
suspect that the two may be one in the same and I was just exposed to
the one phrase and not the other. Video music perhaps refers to
similar technique but with the specific attempt to turn music videos
on their head, music videos being the addition of images to music
tracks rather than the composition of linked images and sound through
cuts, the use of the medium at hand to create music that video music
is.
I had seen some of those appropriated Scratch video pieces that Steven
mentioned that had political drive and had labeled them in my mind as
video music. Case for the idea that I was merely misspeaking. But
thanks for giving me all the leads. They've been helpful and very
opening to me.
Adam
On Feb 9, 2008 5:46 PM, Cari Machet <email suppressed> wrote:
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> On Feb 9, 2008 2:15 PM, Ball Steven <email suppressed> wrote:
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> > Adam,
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> > Scratch Video is a term coined (I think) by George Barber specifically to
> refer to a practice like his, the Duvet Bros and Gorilla Tapes (among
> others) in the early eighties, which appropriated images from TV and
> recontextualised them, often as political commentary or satire. This was
> the early days of the domestic VCR in the UK and the tapes were often made
> using crude crash editing between two VHS machines, sometimes, but not
> exclusively, creating what you refer to as 'video music'. 'Scratch' was a
> deliberate allusion to the scratching and musical appropriation by
> Grandmasters Flash, Melle Mel, et al, which back then was quite a novelty.
> Akiko Hada would have been aware of scratch but not considered to be part of
> the scene, Ohi Ho Bang being made a few years after the heyday of Scratch
> proper, not necessarily typical of her work and a collaboration with German
> post-punk musician Holger Hiller.
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> > So in short Scratch Video is not Video Music, I think the latter is a
> genre that you've just invented!
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> > http://www.steven-ball.net
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> > http://directobjective.blogspot.com/
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> > On 9 Feb 2008, at 16:55, Adam Marchand wrote:
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> > Steven,
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> > Thank you. I'd forgotten about Marclay and had never seen the Ohi Ho
> > Bang Bang. They were exactly what I meant (more-so the Ohi Ho Bang
> > Bang) when I meant video music. Is it called Scratch video properly?
> > On Feb 8, 2008 7:20 AM, Steven Ball <email suppressed> wrote:
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> > Adam,
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> > My video The Defenestrascope sort of does what you describe. There's a
> > QuickTime up here:
> > http://www.steven-ball.co.uk/dvnotes.html#defens
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> > Of course there's a lot that follows similar kinds of processes: a lot of
> > Bruce Conner's work, scratch video from the early eighties by the likes of
> > The Duvet Brothers (their Blue Monday features the New Order track see
> > http://www.duvetbrothers.com/), George Barber
> > (http://www.luxonline.org.uk/artists/george_barber/index.html) and Gorilla
> > Tapes (http://www.tate.org.uk/britain/artistsfilm/programme3/#chief), etc.
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> > Perhaps you know Akiko Hada and Holger Hillers' Ohi Ho Bang Bang:
> > http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cKkyMLe34hU
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> > or more recently Christian Marclay's Video Quartet:
> > http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9VmXoeZir7A
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> > Steven Ball
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> > On Feb 8, 2008 1:06 AM, Adam Marchand <email suppressed> wrote:
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> > Video music is the process by which a beat or melody is established
> > through cuts in video that is inextricably linked to the audio track.
> > Sort of like the Musique Concrete from (I think) the 20's in France,
> > but where the image is part of the tape and viewed with the sound.
> > Sort of like seeing what makes the samples in a DJs cut.
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> > It's not a catchy big thing, but last year or so there was a hit video
> > on Youtube where a one Lasse H– made a song out of video cuts of
> > himself playing single drums of a kit and thus, through cutting
> > created a beat. He is a youtube hot ticket, but the process and art
> > have been around since, I believe the nineties. I just didn't
> > remember any of the names.
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> > Adam
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> > On Feb 4, 2008 11:14 PM, Cari Machet <email suppressed> wrote:
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> > steven reich
> > http://www.stevereich.com/
> > wife is a filmmaker - beryl korot
> > http://www.stevereich.com/
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> > but this was done looong ago
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> > but what do you mean by "video music artist"
> > there a million VJ's
> > and a million filmmakers that do amazing music videos so
> > could you clarify?
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> > On Feb 4, 2008 10:35 PM, Adam Hart <email suppressed> wrote:
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> > I'm pretty sure that was Doug Aitken.
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> > On Feb 4, 2008 8:07 PM, Adam Marchand <email suppressed> wrote:
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> > leads toward video music artists. I am aware of very few. One
> > installation in particular that I am interested in, caught wind of
> > recently, is a multi channel piece involving Andre 3000 and spanning
> > continents. Something about synchronous music. It was apparently
> > shown at P.S.1 a couple of years ago.
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> > Any other links would be helpful.
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> > Thanks,
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> > Adam
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