From: Marilyn Brakhage (email suppressed)
Date: Tue Oct 07 2008 - 22:47:47 PDT
I think this is a very rich and interesting subject. . . . A couple of
years ago, after being invited to speak about Brakhage and "visual
music" at CCMIX, I wrote a piece attempting to address the ways in
which (I believe) Stan Brakhage's notion of visual music differs
significantly from a lot of others'. That essay, along with a
follow-up 'conversation' with filmmaker Rick Raxlen, can be found at
http://vantagepointmagazine.wordpress.com/ -- for anyone interested.
Marilyn Brakhage
Victoria BC
On Tuesday, October 7, 2008, at 03:33 PM, Santiago Vernetti wrote:
> It's not so much a problem of mine as it is an interest. An interest
> in how the term has been introduced and why it has become a "defacto
> label." When I was first introduced to the work of Belson and
> Fischinger (among other filmmakers) I had never heard of the term.
> Their films were simply described as "cinema." The term Visual Music
> has irked me at times only because I have never heard anyone use the
> term Aural Music. The word 'music' implies the assemblage/arrangement
> of sounds, and so I wonder about why it is so difficult for cinema to
> have the same implication with regard to image. I understand the
> comparison, and I don't mean to get deep into the bog of semantics,
> but the tradition of labeling cinema by comparison to other modes of
> creation/expression is of interest to me: Visual Music, Cinepoem, a
> Collage film, narrative cinema etc.
>
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Larry Cuba <email suppressed> wrote:
>
> From: Santiago Vernetti
> Sent: Oct 6, 2008 1:26 PM
> To: email suppressed
> Subject: Re: The Debate REWIRED on You Tube and Vimeo
> ...lately I've been having trouble with title of "Visual Music." It's
> a term I've been hearing a lot more often, and I'm wondering what
> frameworks think about it's usage. I'm particularly interested in how
> the term has become a label for the works of filmmakers like Jordan
> Belson, Oskar Fischinger, Stan Vanderbeek etc.
> Thoughts?
>
>
> Is the problem with the term "Visual Music" itself?
> Although not a particularly strong term, it seems to
> have become the defacto label for all works created
> primarily as a form of visual art comparable to (and
> in conjunction with) the art of music.
>
> Or you don't think that experimental filmmakers like
> Belson, Fischinger, Vanderbeek, (also the Whitneys,
> Lye, and McLaren) belong in this category that now also
> seems to include several generations of music videos
> and VJs?
>
>
> ---Larry Cuba
> The iotaCenter
> www.iotacenter.org
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