From: Dicky (email suppressed)
Date: Mon Feb 23 2009 - 10:30:26 PST
Hi Miriam,
There's a really high amount of misinformation on this thread. I have made
many films with Regular 8, and am working on one right now in fact, so let
me try and correct some of these mistakes.
Regular 8 cameras do not take 16 mm film per se; you cannot just go out and
buy 16 mm film and put it in the camera. Regular 8 film is the same size as
16 mm film, and the sprocket holes are also the same size, except there are
twice as many sprocket holes and they run along both sides of the film.
Also, you cannot just splice it in with 16 mm film necessarily... because
there are twice as many sprocket holes, you have to be careful about this.
You have to count and make sure that there are an even number of sprocket
holes in a strip if you plan on putting more 16 mm film after it. If there
are an odd number of holes, the film will not catch in the claw, get torn up
and potentially damage your projector; I know from experience!
The film is usually sold in 25 foot canisters, although there is stock from
Eastern Europe (I think the Czech Republic) called Fomopan that comes in 33
foot rolls. It's not the easiest film to find, but there are plenty of
places that have it. Two that I know of off hand because they are the places
I buy my film from are Action Camera in San Francisco and Yale Film and
Video in Los Angeles.
And if you'd like to just see what the film looks like if you leave it
unslit, I have some stills from single and multi-projector works I've done
with regular 8 film here:
http://flickr.com/photos/thedicky/sets/72157608341201326/
The only one that is in color, for instance, is a single projection of
un-slit regular 8.
Best,
Rick Bahto
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Dinorah de Jesús Rodriguez <
email suppressed> wrote:
> i agree that you might want to hold on to this rare find. the effect
> produced by this double-8 camera when projected in 16mm is very cool. and
> yes, you can project it and cut the footage in with other regular 16mm
> footage. i had a bolex like this years ago and had to sell it (basically
> had kids to feed) and to this day, it is the one piece of equipment that i
> have most regretted parting with. this just might be a blessing in
> disguise, Miriam.
>
> enjoy today...
>
> Dinorah de Jesús Rodríguez
> Film/Video Artist and Freelance Writer
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> On Feb 23, 2009, at 12:26 PM, Jorge Lorenzo Flores Garza wrote:
>
> Ohh, I guess that's a much better explanation from Mark!!
>
> Saludos,
>
> Jorge L.
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:19:59 -0800
> From: email suppressed
> Subject: Re: HELP
> To: email suppressed
>
> Miriam,
>
> You indeed purchased a Regular 8 (R8) camera. As you probably now realize,
> it takes 16mm film with sprocket holes specific for use in 8mm cameras. You
> shoot the roll of 25ft film which exposes half the frame, turn the film over
> and shoot another 25ft. After processing the film is split and spliced
> together.
>
> Although I haven't tried this, I'm told you can still project this film
> with a standard 16mm projector if you don't have it split after processing.
> You would basically see two frames simultaneously on the screen which may be
> of interest to you as a technique. Keep in mind that one frame would be
> right side up, while the other would be upside down due to the way the film
> goes through the camera. If you want both frames right side up you would
> have to shoot the last 25ft with the camera upside down.
>
> If you didn't pay much for the camera and it works you might want to keep
> it or this technique.
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* miriam jayne martins sampaio [mailto:email suppressed>
> ]
> *Sent:* Monday, February 23, 2009 9:00 AM
> *To:* email suppressed
> *Subject:* HELP
>
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I kinda of screwed up when i bought this camera, Quarz 2x8S-1M FILM MOVIE
> CAMERA.
>
> Quarz 2x8S-1M FILM MOVIE CAMERA.
> The camera and it's zoom lens was manufactured at KRASNOGORSK factory in
> Moscow, USSR.
>
> Technical data
> Camera Type: movie film, film type: standard 16mm film, frame size:
> 4x5.5mm, 12, 18, 24, 36 frames/sec preset, internal light meter, single
> frame shooting, spring drive motor, intershangeable lenses.
>
> Lens: Jupiter-24M 1.9/12.5
>
> Let me say first that i know nothing about 16mm camera's and was super
> excited to find this one which seemed quite compact and a good reasonable
> price. i purchased it from from ebay. before purchasing it did show it to a
> friend who knows about camera's and he too assumed it was 16mm but its NOT!!
> it takes 16mm but its actually an 8mm?!?! goddess help me!
> does anyone know if it takes any kind of 16mm film??
>
> i feel like an idiot but....
> i have not received it and i did speak with the seller about this but....
> the ad was a bit misleading but ultimately it was my fault. so know i have
> a camera that i did not want??
>
>
> Miriam
>
>
>
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