From: Myron Ort (email suppressed)
Date: Mon Feb 23 2009 - 12:02:22 PST
This is a confusing post. You cannot shoot 16mm film in a Reg. 8mm
camera. You must shoot "double 8mm" which has extra sprocket holes.
As was pointed out, if you splice together "double 8mm unsplit" film
with normal 16mm film, you run the risk of doing it wrong and
damaging the 16mm film. The quartered image effect when you do not
split the double 8mm film is a very specialized effect and not really
very useful since the frame lines are usually very ugly, there are
better ways to achieve this effect. Besides, if one really wants to
do that effect, it is a simple matter of shooting the second side of
the film with the camera upside down, making all images in the
quartered frame right side up, although I think one side will appear
to be running backwards, correct?
Do they even make 16mm film in double perferated anymore? Please
note that I did not say double sprocketed which is what double 8mm
is. I hope we all understand this distinction. Double perf was cool
because it was a simple matter to flip it around in the splicing and
have a reverse running shot. Personally I never really liked either
the halved frame or the quartered frame effect because, depending on
the camera used, the visible frame lines did not visually appeal to
me, not to say it isn't usable by someone.
mo
On Feb 23, 2009, at 11:42 AM, Dinorah de Jesús Rodriguez wrote:
> this would be if you want to project the film as 8mm. yes, you
> definitely need the right kind of film for that, as pointed out here.
>
> if, however, you are interested in the "quartered" effect that some
> have described here with four 8mm frames appearing inside of each
> 16mm frame, two of them appearing upside down, you can use regular
> 16mm film and project it as such. this process does not require
> the splitting of the film down the middle nor the extra perfs.
>
> you definitely have some options here.
>
> enjoy today...
>
> Dinorah de Jesús Rodríguez
> Film/Video Artist and Freelance Writer
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> On Feb 23, 2009, at 12:49 PM, Theodore King wrote:
>
>> Miriam,
>>
>> You also need to find the correct film for the camera, because
>> even though the film is originally 16 as it goes through the
>> camera it need perforation on both sides and double the number
>> that normal 16 has. The only place I know of to find such film is
>> at: myoldcamera.com
>>
>> They take regular 16 and add the proper perforations, and shorten
>> it to 25ft. Just make sure you get regular 8 film (which is what
>> they will call it) and not super8 there is a big difference.
>> tk
>>
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