From: Kevin Obsatz (email suppressed)
Date: Sat Jan 27 2007 - 09:00:20 PST
I just wanted to say that my post title "365 vs. videohaiku" was
intended as totally tongue-in-cheek.
I certainly don't have the moxie to stand toe to toe with Jonas Mekas.
Irony, I've found, is nearly impossible for me to communicate in
email, especially with strangers...
-kevin
On Jan 25, 2007, at 10:17 AM, Captain P.J. wrote:
> I have dropped in and out of Frameworks more times than I can
> count. The thing that usually signs me off is one of these "vs."
> threads: film vs. video, Mekas vs. Lucas, politics vs. politics,
> Hollywood vs. Everyonelse, Godzilla vs. Spider-man (wait, that was
> a different forum). In fact, when I see a thread that has fifty
> responses, my first inclination is to delete all of them- I've
> learned from experience that they have become "vs." threads. It
> seems like there are so many boundaries and wars within
> "experimental film" that it doesn't even feel liberating anymore!
> How discouraging that must be to a newbie!
>
> I admit to being one of those "lurkers" lately. I used to write
> about works and experimental "moving images" quite a bit and now I
> feel that I simply use Frameworks (albeit rarely) to advertise my
> screenings, ask technical questions, crack jokes, etc. I think I
> sometimes forget how helpful this forum once was to someone who had
> just seen experimental works and wanted to know more (wow- seven
> years ago).
>
> I think part of the problem is this: http://
> hollywoodastronomer.blogspot.com
>
> When I first started this thing, I would sometimes cross-post my
> blogs on Frameworks (I think one of my Brakhage screening
> experiences was the last one I posted), but got discouraged because
> these threads generated very little discussion (unless someone was
> "correcting" me for falling outside of the increasingly (and
> ironically) defined lines of "avant-garde"). Moreover, sometimes I
> feel like summing myself up in a picture or a video clip (or
> talking about Russian rocket bodies falling out of the sky). I
> also enjoy the random wanderers. So I migrated to blogging and and
> became passive on Frameworks.
>
> Perhaps if a few of us started actually discussing experimental
> works again (and some people do, I might add, they just get
> buried), this list could balance itself out a little better. I
> think some "vs." chatter is okay, but honestly, I can bash
> Hollywood or politicians on almost any forum. I'll never forget
> the day I met someone in New York whose eyes got big as she
> realized, "YOU'RE Captain P.J.!?" People do read those posts, too!
>
> Hopefully,
> Courtney
>
>
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